PIA to Dry Lease Narrow-body and Turboprop Aircraft
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Abdullah
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It is devastating that airline loosing it's top level management control and a few people who doesn't directly belong to the airline, taking all its decisions and implementing their personal ideas and perceptions. This is not how rest of world deal with a commercial organization, no matter government owned. This is highly unprofessional practice.
As of corporate culture, Managing Director (MD) & the Chief Excessive Officer (CEO) should be the final authorities to take all decisions, with their professional team work.
Livery game should be stopped now. Further more will highly disgrace the airline. Managers should concentrate towards the Main Operation and work with internal affairs to maintain broken communication & management chain.
It is already discussed that customer (passenger) doesn't much care about your logo & livery. Your customer expect safe, low fare, on-time, and comfortable flight services with a neat & clean aircraft cabin.
As of corporate culture, Managing Director (MD) & the Chief Excessive Officer (CEO) should be the final authorities to take all decisions, with their professional team work.
Livery game should be stopped now. Further more will highly disgrace the airline. Managers should concentrate towards the Main Operation and work with internal affairs to maintain broken communication & management chain.
It is already discussed that customer (passenger) doesn't much care about your logo & livery. Your customer expect safe, low fare, on-time, and comfortable flight services with a neat & clean aircraft cabin.
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Abbas Ali
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Yes, where are PIA Chairman and Managing Director? Don't they have decision making powers?Umar Farooq wrote:As of corporate culture, Managing Director (MD) & the Chief Excessive Officer (CEO) should be the final authorities to take all decisions. with their professional team work.
Seems some youngsters on social media have become advisors to Mr. Shujaat Azeem on issues related to PIA fleet planning, livery etc.
Abbas
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Sahil Ali
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First of all there should have been only one aircraft that has to be painted in retro livery to celebrate 60 years of Pakistan International Airlines services. Now that we have already painted two of the newly inducted A320's in the retro livery which completely makes no sense. This needs to stop. For God's sake this seriously needs to stop. Retro livery was painted on these aircraft on the request and efforts of the forum members of HOP. Now we are the ones who gotta stop this. So apparently one of the forum member is in direct contact with special assistant to prime minister on aviation. PIA ap-bkz can u please request special assistant not to paint any of the upcoming A320's in the retro livery. How would we just claim that we are celebrating 60's years of PIA when u paint all the aircraft in the retro livery. The meaning behind paint job of that one aircraft AP-BLA just died. There should be only one retro livery aircraft. That's how other airlines have been celebrating their anniversaries. Two of the aircraft already been painted in retro livery. But there should be no more retro livery on the 320's. U can suggest him to focus on the mistakes if there are any in retro liveries rather than painting aircraft in retro livery one after the other. Moreover this is one of the best and informative aviation forums but since sometime there have been no solid news but just rumors on this forum. Every single and important topic is spammed with rumors and this retro livery thing.
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Charliedelta11
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This is highly entertaining.
Things were going pretty well i must say while narrowbodies were being inducted. I think everybody can agree with me on the fact that the more narrowbodies we have, the more we can spare our widebodies from flying on routes like khi-lhe etc and focus on international routes.
All that needed to be done, was add a few, fuel efficient wide bodies to bring back some routes that had been shut down and increase frequencies on existing ones. Plain and simple. In PIAs case where cash is obviously a very difficult to come by commodity, getting a few 777s, would be the right thing to do, with limited 330s for the 310s.
Instead, we're talking about 748s, A350s, 787s which it cannot afford now or in the long run, or even wait for since the time to replace its ageing fleet is NOW, not 1 yr or 2 yrs from now. Then there is wasting money on turning planes into trucks. Mazaak ban gaya hai ab ye sub.
Things were going pretty well i must say while narrowbodies were being inducted. I think everybody can agree with me on the fact that the more narrowbodies we have, the more we can spare our widebodies from flying on routes like khi-lhe etc and focus on international routes.
All that needed to be done, was add a few, fuel efficient wide bodies to bring back some routes that had been shut down and increase frequencies on existing ones. Plain and simple. In PIAs case where cash is obviously a very difficult to come by commodity, getting a few 777s, would be the right thing to do, with limited 330s for the 310s.
Instead, we're talking about 748s, A350s, 787s which it cannot afford now or in the long run, or even wait for since the time to replace its ageing fleet is NOW, not 1 yr or 2 yrs from now. Then there is wasting money on turning planes into trucks. Mazaak ban gaya hai ab ye sub.

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Abbas Ali
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Aircraft painted with truck art
That art looks beautiful on trucks but on aircraft it's going to look ugly
Abbas
That art looks beautiful on trucks but on aircraft it's going to look ugly
Abbas
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PIA ap-bkz
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Yeah sure I'm going to ask shujaat not to d any more retros
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PIA ap-bkz
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Abass bhai tell me.Should I tell him not to implement??? All the forum members.Make a poll about thisAbbas Ali wrote:Aircraft painted with truck art![]()
That art looks beautiful on trucks but on aircraft it's going to look ugly![]()
Abbas
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Abdullah
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Surely, you 've to pass a big NO if you can do so.PIA ap-bkz wrote:Abass bhai tell me.Should I tell him not to implement??? All the forum members. Make a poll about this
It is already discussed in previous posts and no one agreed with the following;
1. More than one aircraft in Retro livery.
2. Truck Art livery.
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Abbas Ali
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In my personal opinion, the aircraft will look ugly in truck art.PIA ap-bkz wrote:Abass bhai tell me.Should I tell him not to implement??? All the forum members.Make a poll about thisAbbas Ali wrote:Aircraft painted with truck art![]()
That art looks beautiful on trucks but on aircraft it's going to look ugly![]()
Abbas
You may take opinion of other forum members in this topic or feel free to create a topic with poll.
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Truck Art only on the Tail could work

Special Concept Livery to celebrate Pakistan's 70th year of Independence
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10th A320 (1st of 4 320s from Air Asia) delivery date is 7th August 2015 inshaALLAH !
When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return !
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Sahil Ali
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No more retros and no truck art. Please. A humble request to the concerned person.
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PIA ap-bkz
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I'll tell Mr shujaat to stop PIA from this retro and bla bla
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Sahil Ali
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Much appreciated PIA ap-bkz. Cheers.
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CoyBoy
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Yes I have seen him follow the twitter of some teen whos been retweeting him and is a PML-N supporter, I found it strange.Abbas Ali wrote:Yes, where are PIA Chairman and Managing Director? Don't they have decision making powers?Umar Farooq wrote:As of corporate culture, Managing Director (MD) & the Chief Excessive Officer (CEO) should be the final authorities to take all decisions. with their professional team work.
Seems some youngsters on social media have become advisors to Mr. Shujaat Azeem on issues related to PIA fleet planning, livery etc.
Abbas
