PIA to Dry Lease Narrow-body and Turboprop Aircraft

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PIA ap-bkz wrote:I think that we should be happy that majority of it is painted great by our talented painters. These are really minor nooks. InshaAllah the other a320s will be without any faults. I have again talked to the management regarding ap-bla's font. They have assured me that on the next maintainance visit, it will be corrected.I'll also talk about these minor nooks on this :-)
You are kidding, minor nooks??? for the second time, and painted by talented people who are clueless.
747-300 wrote:Maybe PIA should not paint AP-BLU in retro instead should paint it in Typical Pathani Karachi bus scheme :D It would loook very good and give PIA a much needed boost towards avgeek.
Thats a great idea but too much detailed work involved, however Qantas did something similar on two 747s.
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PIA ap-bkz wrote:There is a good news. I have just received this great nèws that PIA b777 ap-bgy will be painted in 1980s livery =D> =D> It will look great :-)
Thats awesome! Now 1980s livery will be seen in Canada, NY, Europe,etc ! Btw are u sure theat it will be 1980s, not 1960s?
PK served all those places in 80s livery.
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Unable to understand the logic of this branding team how they are continuously changing/altering PIA official logo & livery, after a few years. This should not be. The main thing that should be concentrated, is Main Airline Operation with improved services and better customer care. Customer doesn't care about your logo, and liveries but quality of your services and customer care. Look around and find out the airlines flying with old logos and liveries but they are well conscious about their quality of services and customer care, so that they are leading the airline industry.
True infact PIA could still be flying 80s livery with some tweaks to update it, simply using a different green and pulling gold tripe under windows and cutoff tail look.

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CoyBoy wrote:compare it to the new livery ad of 2004, do you have it? two full page versions came out because they were undecided what to do both had flag, simply changing tail colour to green was not even considered despite repeated suggestions to do so.
Yes, I have those full newspaper page ads stored somewhere. First appeared an ad showing Boeing 777 with white tail and green PIA logo and few days later another ad appeared in which the Boeing 777 had wavy Pakistan flag.

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This is how 1960s livery should appear on PIA Airbus A320 registration AP-BLA. Hope they remove mistakes in AP-BLA retro livery. Front antenna on fusealge top I think should be in black colour.

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Port side.

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Starboard side.

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Front side.

Here are original photos showing mistakes in AP-BLA retro livery.

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PIA A320 (AP-BLA) by Gufran Shaikh, on Flickr

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Pakistan International Airlines, Airbus A320-214, AP-BLA by Shivendra Shukla, on Flickr


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Abbas Ali wrote:
CoyBoy wrote:compare it to the new livery ad of 2004, do you have it? two full page versions came out because they were undecided what to do both had flag, simply changing tail colour to green was not even considered despite repeated suggestions to do so.
Yes, I have those full newspaper page ads stored somewhere. First appeared an ad showing Boeing 777 with white tail and green PIA logo and few days later another ad appeared in which the Boeing 777 had wavy Pakistan flag.

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I recall both being flag tail, one with Pakistan title and probably no or tiny PIA along with urdu logo , then the second one with billboard PIA, are you sure they did white tail with PIA as promo?
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Great work there Abbas bhai. This will be implemented on its next visit to the hangar. Baqi sabh log bhi chan say bethjaein. AP-BLU ki minor mistakes khatam hojaen gee on its next visit to the hangar :D
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Mistakes pehlay say hi kyun hon,so many airlines have done retro liveries not one made a blunder only PIA had to bestow this honour on Pakistan.
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Caught both Retro's ! Will share photo soon.
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AP-BLT will be painted same as AP-BLU. You have not to expect error free livery.

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Can you please tell me about the actual color of "PAKISTAN INTERNATIONAL" in 1960s livery? Green or Black?
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Umar Farooq wrote:@Abbas Ali
Can you please tell me about the actual color of "PAKISTAN INTERNATIONAL" in 1960s livery? Green or Black?
Same green colour was used for "PAKISTAN INTERNATIONAL" fuselage titles, green stripe on fuselage and tail colour.

Green colour for small Pakistan flag should be darker.

Wing probably had aircraft registration painted in green colour in italic font.

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Someone told me that "PAKISTAN INTERNATIONAL" on AP-BLT (port-side) painted in BLACK color.

Maybe that is visual effect of dark-green..?
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^ Maybe from distance it appeared black to the person who saw it.

BTW, in 1960s livery the PIA green colour i.e. on tail, fuselage titles, fuselage stripe was lighter than Pakistan flag green colour.

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Maybe it would have been more appropriate to start a new thread RETRO LIVERY instead of commenting on the induction process of the leased A320s.
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I had suggested this but Abbas said its not possible.
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Take a look on AP-BLT (A320);
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...photo by MD.

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"PAKISTAN INTERNATIONAL" painted in BLACK color on AP-BLT fuselage.

It's time to leave this retro livery job because they are unable to do it perfectly. This is called lack of professionalism.

Airline, it's history & fleet should not be disgraced in this way.
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Umar Farooq wrote:Take a look on AP-BLT (A320);
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...photo by MD.

Colors;
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"PAKISTAN INTERNATIONAL" painted in BLACK color on AP-BLT fuselage.

It's time to leave this retro livery job because they are unable to do it perfectly. This is called lack of professionalism.

Airline, it's history & fleet should not be disgraced in this way.
And they again have used wrong font for "PAKISTAN INTERNATIONAL" fuselage titles.

So, now PIA has three A320s in retro livery with variety of mistakes :lol:

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