Air France A380 collides with Delta Connection jet at JFK

[Lufthansa Cargo]

I partially agree Lufthansa cargo. Bust still think that all the scenario and congestion you have pointed out, the A380 was way too fast, see in the first part of the video if that is at normal replay speed.

For us who are not familiar with JFK, Can you are my dear friend abbas point out on the google image the exact positon where ERJ700 was and the direction of A380 travel.

Not a problem Tailwind. I will post this again because the original reply was erased. the taxiway intersection i beleive is Alpha Mike if I am correct. I will re-confirm this again tomorow. BTW I also took some pics that I will ad later on this week.

In the above pictured terminal 2 the CRJ has taxiied onto the terminal ramp and has taxiied off the center yellow line in order to line up the nose with the yellow line off to our right of the terminal's entrance and then it stopped.

AF007 was departing Terminal 1 on the taxiway on our right side of Terminal 2. AF made an immediate left turn and continued to taxi going from the right side of the photo towards the left side of this photo when it clipped the CRJ' tail.

Today I had a chance to swing by the A380 and noticed that not only was the winglet torn off. A chunk of the wing is missing and the leading edge slat is damaged.

[Lufthansa Cargo]

The A380 was taxiing at an average speed here at JFK. Today I happened to notice that Port Authority was monitoring today's A380 movements by either following them or driving along side the wing closest to the terminals. Who knows, maybe they are under investigation as well.

I will post more as soon as i get more info.

[Abbas Ali]

Here's photo of damage suffered by the A380. I think this will be repaired soon and enable the aircraft to return to active service.


Source: www.dailymail.co.uk

And here are photos of damage suffered by Comair CRJ701ER.


Source: www.dailymail.co.uk


Source: www.dailymail.co.uk

Abbas

[TAILWIND]

Luthansa Cargo.....Can you tell me where the Delta Connection ERJ was at the time of incident. A or B in the photo below:


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[Abbas Ali]

On following link are photos of Air France A380 being repaired.

http://nycaviation.com/forum/threads/39 ... -JFK/page5

Abbas

[Lufthansa Cargo]

Luthansa Cargo.....Can you tell me where the Delta Connection ERJ was at the time of incident. A or B in the photo below:


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A The taxiway that has the letter b on it is where the A380 taxied out of and made the left turn to pass behind label A where the CRJ was standing towards the right of the label, not on the yellow line in the center.

[TAILWIND]

Thanks Lufthansa Cargo....this makes the things clear....please keep us posted on any new development or information on this incident

[Lufthansa Cargo]

not a problem. i got example pics that i will post later this week of what our A380 and AF's looks like taxiing in this area.

[TAILWIND]

I have tried to draw with some approximate scaling using goodle measure tools. With a wingspan of 261.6 feet, if the A380 Nosewheel is on yellow centrle line, the red line shows the extent of wing tip. The yellow arrow depicts Delta connection CRJ700 (length 106.8 ft), assuming the wingtip hit 2-3 feet from the trailing edge.
Strangely there is no marking on the taxilink MIKE to indicate to pilots taxing towards delta connection terminal that they are clear of Taxilink ALPHA, especially if this is being used for aircraft like A380.


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[Lufthansa Cargo]

I have tried to draw with some approximate scaling using goodle measure tools. With a wingspan of 261.6 feet, if the A380 Nosewheel is on yellow centrle line, the red line shows the extent of wing tip. The yellow arrow depicts Delta connection CRJ700 (length 106.8 ft), assuming the wingtip hit 2-3 feet from the trailing edge.
Strangely there is no marking on the taxilink MIKE to indicate to pilots taxing towards delta connection terminal that they are clear of Taxilink ALPHA, especially if this is being used for aircraft like A380.


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you are right, there isn't any. those two yellow lines there are used for departing and arriving aircraft. DL connection turns right off of the main taxiway and goes directly for one of these lines being that this short taxiway is a two way taxiway. When th crj taxied in he aimed his nose to the yellow line that is on the right side of the arrow. Another aircraft was preparing for pushback onto the left yellow line. He was holding on the right yellow line waiting for the third marshaller to show up so that he could procede to his gate when AF struck the aircraft. In other words the CRJ was no longer on the yellow line where the arrow is. Now this to AF looks like he has clearance because technically speaking it apears that the CRJ is completely taxied in from AFs point of view. Little did he know that they never really ever use that line while taxiing in.

[Lufthansa Cargo]

Last night i got a chance to drive by the AF 380 and noticed that some new parts were already installed. All that are left are leading edge, navigational lights, and the winglet that has the white light right in the middle of it. My sources tell me that the tower might be the ones taking the blame for this. But lets just wait and see.

[Lufthansa Cargo]

The AF A380 might be fully repaired by now. I was off this past weekend when the repairs might have been completed. According to my fellow colleagues they do not see the jumbo anywhere on the airport.

The CRJ i beleave might take a while longer. I was told that along with the tail, the fueselauge is damaged as well. I will let u guys know as soon as i find out what is going on.
The Delta hangar is in a part of the airport that i dont usually go towards but i will try to find out. Sorry about the delay of pics i said i would post. i will get them done by this weekend.