Another ground incident - ATR 42 (AP-BHN) damaged

SM · Post by SM » Sat May 05, 2007 6:19 am

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Moin · Post by **Moin** » Sat May 05, 2007 6:22 am

I think we should count our blessings that these accidents are all happening on the ground.

It does seem a little strange that all of a sudden a succession of these incidents is occuring and I think CCTV cameras should be fitted at various parts of the apron area to check on such things.

PIA it seems is becoming more and more 'ground accident prone'.

Amaad Lone · Post by **Amaad Lone** » Sun May 06, 2007 11:18 am

What is the update on the damaged ATR, back in service??

FULLTHRUST · Post by **FULLTHRUST** » Sun May 06, 2007 1:05 pm

TAILWIND wrote:
Max wrote:I think a vision check should be conducted. Karachi traffic is not such that this can happen again and again.

Abbass Ali wrote: I hope investigators tested blood alcohol level of drivers involved in these incidents.
Well at least in ATR incident, as reported the sheer pin broke, apparantly the driver is not at fault. The guy in the cockpit controlling the brakes is to be blamed. If while towing (pulling) the sheer pin breaks, the person in the cockpit has to act swiftly to apply brakes to avoid the ac hitting the tractor ahead.

You are very right Tailwind. There was no fault on Tug driver's part. The person on the brakes (in the cockpit) did not have any clue to apply the brakes as he was transferred from TGS to engineering, and was not given training to handle these kind of situations. On top of it, the middle management (Dy. Chief engineer level) gave the name of a senior tech and when that chap appeared before the investigation board, he simply refused that he was not in the cockpit.

Now what do you say?

TAILWIND · Post by **TAILWIND** » Sun May 06, 2007 3:44 pm

fullthrust wrote:.....On top of it, the middle management (Dy. Chief engineer level) gave the name of a senior tech and when that chap appeared before the investigation board, he simply refused that he was not in the cockpit.

Now what do you say?-

You have said it all. Do you still want me to say something?????The issue you have highlighted is more of ethical than technical in nature. Indeed Great People (USED TO) Fly with PIA.

Abbas Ali · Post by **Abbas Ali** » Thu May 10, 2007 1:37 am

Link to AP-BHN damage photos is in following topic:

Topic: PIA's recently Damaged Aircrafts - any photos?

FMC · Post by **FMC** » Sun May 13, 2007 11:43 am

The aircraft towing activity is part of the SWissport Contract. Yet PIA engineering has been doing it for the last six months and Swissport collects the fee.

Abbas Ali · Post by **Abbas Ali** » Mon May 21, 2007 5:26 pm

Amaad Lone wrote:What is the update on the damaged ATR, back in service??

AP-BHN repaired and back in service.

AN · Post by AN » Mon May 21, 2007 6:03 pm

not today it wasnt

Abbas Ali · Post by **Abbas Ali** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:40 am

^ Okay, thanks for correction.

Is it still inside the maintenance hangar or removed from maintenance hangar?

Can someone confirm - thank you.

AN · Post by AN » Tue May 22, 2007 7:14 pm

stilll in maintenance hanger

Amaad Lone · Post by **Amaad Lone** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:15 am

Is AP-BHN back in service, or still grounded???

Abbas Ali · Post by **Abbas Ali** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:18 am

It's back in service, confirmed and seen at Islamabad Airport by a friend of mine few days ago.

AN · Post by AN » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:49 pm

BHN was back in sevice around the 26th of last month. A total down time of over 2 weeks.

Airborne · Post by **Airborne** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:50 am

Aha, so I guess PIA now has mashAllah 6 ATRs in service; any idea when is the 7th one coming over or it has already?

Moreover, any idea if PIA is leasing two ATR-72s as well??