Aircraft Cabin Air Conditioning Problem Upsets Passengers of PIA Flight PK-750

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Aircraft Cabin Air Conditioning Problem Upsets Passengers of PIA Flight PK-750

Post by Abbas Ali » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:48 pm

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DAWN News channel showed passengers arguing with PIA crew due to some issue with aircraft cabin air conditioning. Passengers were seen asking PIA crew to open aircraft cabin doors for ventilation. The flight was PK-750.

Probably flight PK-750 from Milan to Islamabad via Paris performed by PIA Boeing 777-300ER registration AP-BHW on August 3.

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Re: Aircraft Cabin Air Conditioning Problem Upsets Passengers of PIA Flight PK-750

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Re: Aircraft Cabin Air Conditioning Problem Upsets Passengers of PIA Flight PK-750

Post by Abbas Ali » Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:55 pm

According to PIA clarification, aircraft doors were closed and it was ready for push back awaiting air traffic controller clearance. Engines of the aircraft were not started at that time.

Apparently the passenger cabin air conditioning was unavailable for about thirty minutes.

Seems the Boeing 777's Auxiliary Power Unit (APU) was not functioning after removal of Ground Power Unit (GPU) for aircraft push back before the start of aircraft engines.

The incident happened on August 3 at the time of aircraft's departure from Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport as flight PK-750 to Islamabad, according to news sources.

CEO PIA Dr. Musharraf Rasool Cyan has ordered investigation.



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Re: Aircraft Cabin Air Conditioning Problem Upsets Passengers of PIA Flight PK-750

Post by arshad.altaf » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:21 pm

So when the aircraft is pushing back the AC stops working because the engines are not running and there is no ground power? Its a question? If no AC what about just the fans to keep the air circulating?

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Re: Aircraft Cabin Air Conditioning Problem Upsets Passengers of PIA Flight PK-750

Post by Moin » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:27 am

The APU is inop on 5 777's at present.
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Re: Aircraft Cabin Air Conditioning Problem Upsets Passengers of PIA Flight PK-750

Post by Abbas Ali » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:37 pm

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Mother of infant seen in the video has asked Chief Justice of Pakistan to take notice of the incident, according to Dunya News channel. The channel's team visited the family in Attock.

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Re: Aircraft Cabin Air Conditioning Problem Upsets Passengers of PIA Flight PK-750

Post by TAILWIND » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:41 pm

arshad.altaf wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:21 pm
So when the aircraft is pushing back the AC stops working because the engines are not running and there is no ground power? Its a question? If no AC what about just the fans to keep the air circulating?

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As an alternate procedure, one engine is started at the gate using ground bleed, if APU is in op, otherwise how would the engines start after leaving the stand?
But there seems to be some other issue as per PIA statement.

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Re: Aircraft Cabin Air Conditioning Problem Upsets Passengers of PIA Flight PK-750

Post by siddhi817 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:34 pm

not sure/ knowledgeable enough how long regulations allow to run one engine at gate but normally its started before pushback only

They could have arranged an AC cart. even if APU was operative, it couldnt have provided enough cooling for the whole aircraft packed with passengers.

This incident speaks of poor management only

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Re: Aircraft Cabin Air Conditioning Problem Upsets Passengers of PIA Flight PK-750

Post by arshad.altaf » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:41 pm

Thank you dear colleagues for providing such useful information on this process. Such a key component (APU) non operational in so many aircrafts by itself is an indicator of the myriad of troubles of PIA. With so many flights getting delayed almost on a daily basis, and on a lighter note, perhaps another bakra sadaqa is required on the tarmac. Hailing for divine intervention to resolve our beloved airline's troubles-the only viable hope at the moment it seems.

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Re: Aircraft Cabin Air Conditioning Problem Upsets Passengers of PIA Flight PK-750

Post by Abbas Ali » Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:47 pm

According to PIA press release:

* The airline has issued show cause notice to its Paris Station Manager for his poor performance and mishandling of August 3 flight PK-750.

* The airline has also issued penalty notice to ground handling agent Air France for delay in closing cargo hold door of the aircraft after passenger boarding bridge was moved away that developed suffocation, nausea and discomfort to passengers especially the infant seen in the video.

* Chief of Flight Operations has been directed to inquire flight captain's role in dissolving the commotion and not exhibiting the situational control.

* Flight Service Department has been directed to hold special training of cabin crew to handle such type of situations.



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Re: Aircraft Cabin Air Conditioning Problem Upsets Passengers of PIA Flight PK-750

Post by Abbas Ali » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:15 pm

Paris Incident

A show cause notice has been issued to the PIA’s Station manager in Paris, Matiullah Khan, for allegedly failing to handle a situation owing to which passengers in a PIA aircraft experienced severe suffocation and an infant was affected a few days back, it is learnt here reliably.

According to sources, the aircraft after having its doors closed and leaving the terminal had stayed at ground for a considerably long time and its APU / other equipment were also not operating properly, and as the ground support unit (air conditioning van) had also left so without the airconditioning the passengers started to feel suffocation and an infant was particularly affected.

A video regarding the incident had gone viral a few days back, which prompted the airline to initiate an inquiry.

The sources said that the action was also being initiated against the pilot of the aircraft, Rao A. Taimur, for not handling the situation effectively.

Responding to Dawn queries on Tuesday, PIA spokesperson Tajwar said that a show cause notice has been issued to the PIA’s station manager in Paris over his poor performance and mishandling the flight PK-750 on Aug 3, 2018.

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PIA initiates inquiry into PK-750 incident

KARACHI:
Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has initiated inquiry into the event that occurred in the flight PK 750 at Paris on August 3, 2018.

PIA management has issued show cause notice to its station manager in Paris over his poor performance and mishandling the flight PK 750 on August 3, 2018.

Moreover, the PIA has also issued penalty notice to its ground handling agent in Paris for delay in cargo door closure after the removal of jetty that led suffocation and created nausea and discomfort to the passengers especially to an infant.

PIA spokesman said the decision was made upon recommendation of high level inquiry committee. In addition, Chief of Flight Operations has also been instructed to hold the captain accountable for his command and role in dissolving the commotion and not exhibiting situational control. Also the Flight Service Department has further been directed to hold special training of the cabin crew to better equip with resolution of such situations.

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