PIA ATR Flight PK-661 Crashes Near Havelian

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Re: PIA ATR Flight PK-661 Crashes Near Havelian

Post by TAILWIND » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:19 pm

inducedrag wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:33 pm
Flyer1015 wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:37 am
Will the report be published online like they did for Airblue and Bhoja?
Next generation will be able to read it by the time ATR will be phased out
As per Avherald, on 28 Jan 2019, Nepal's AAIC released their final report US-Bangla DH8D at Kathmandu which took place on Mar 12th 2018, that is within 11 months. Don't know how long would it take for CAA Pak to release their report. It has already been over two years since accident.


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Re: PIA ATR Flight PK-661 Crashes Near Havelian

Post by Abdulrafeysiddiqui » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:47 pm

When no body have "SAAF NIYAT" to bring out the truth, report won't be coming out. Simple!

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Re: PIA ATR Flight PK-661 Crashes Near Havelian

Post by arshad.altaf » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:06 pm

ISLAMABAD: The Islamabad High Court (IHC) on Thursday strongly censured the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) for its failure to complete the inquiry into the 2016 Havelian plane crash.

Justice Aamir Farooq rejected the CAA’s request for eight more months to complete the probe and ordered the authority to submit the inquiry report by the first week of March.

The court was hearing a petition for a judicial investigation into the accident filed by the mother of the ill-fated flight’s co-pilot.

The directives come 26 months after Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) flight PK-661 from Chitral crashed in the hills of Gagan, some seven kilometres away from Havelian city.

Among the 48 passengers and crew on the Islamabad-bound flight was popular singer-turned-evangelist Junaid Jamshed, two Austrians, and a Chinese national. The plane was an ATR-42 turboprop aircraft.

During the hearing, the court was told that several of the aircraft’s parts were made by French and American firms and the investigation was being delayed because of slow-paced communication with the manufacturers.

On this premise, the CAA presented a request for more time to complete the inquiry which was rejected by Justice Farooq. The judge ordered the aviation authority to finalise the report for submission at the next case hearing, which will be scheduled for the first week of March.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1905410/1- ... ane-crash/

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Re: PIA ATR Flight PK-661 Crashes Near Havelian

Post by Flyer1015 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:27 am

During the hearing, the court was told that several of the aircraft’s parts were made by French and American firms and the investigation was being delayed because of slow-paced communication with the manufacturers.
LOL! This is absolutely untrue. The French and American firms would have given all the requested information and communications a long time ago. Unlike the CAA and SIB in Pakistan, these foreign aviation entities are competent and get the job done.

Now that the judge is demanding the report to be published in one month, it's going to be a rush-job by the SIB and the report will seem ridiculous.

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Re: PIA ATR Flight PK-661 Crashes Near Havelian

Post by inducedrag » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:45 pm

Flyer1015 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:27 am
During the hearing, the court was told that several of the aircraft’s parts were made by French and American firms and the investigation was being delayed because of slow-paced communication with the manufacturers.
LOL! This is absolutely untrue. The French and American firms would have given all the requested information and communications a long time ago. Unlike the CAA and SIB in Pakistan, these foreign aviation entities are competent and get the job done.

Now that the judge is demanding the report to be published in one month, it's going to be a rush-job by the SIB and the report will seem ridiculous.
Send the invistagation team on visit to USA and Europe

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Re: PIA ATR Flight PK-661 Crashes Near Havelian

Post by TAILWIND » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:36 am

CAA would never be able to complete this investigations, they neither have the expertise nor the will. As good muslims, we should say fateha for the victims, and accept this crash as an act of fate, and close this tragic chapter.

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Re: PIA ATR Flight PK-661 Crashes Near Havelian

Post by Flyer1015 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:02 am

TAILWIND wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:36 am
CAA would never be able to complete this investigations, they neither have the expertise nor the will. As good muslims, we should say fateha for the victims, and accept this crash as an act of fate, and close this tragic chapter.
Absolutely not! Fatals of last 13 years: 2006 PIA at Multan, 2010 Airblue in ISB, 2012 Bhoja approaching ISB, 2016 PIA approaching ISB. That's 3 of the biggest airlines (only airlines) with fatal losses in a very short period of time. This is unacceptable by ANY measurable metric. You cannot just accept accidents as fate and close the chapters. We must learn from them, why it happened, and how it can be prevented from happening again. That is how the NTSB and FAA operate in the US here, and Pakistan should learn something as well. Pakistan's aviation safety is a joke. You have the wrong people appointed in the wrong positions. They should be merit based appointments (as opposed to political favors and nepotism). They need to overhaul aviation safety in the entire country from top to bottom.