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The right experience without an MBA is always the preferred choice to an inexperienced MBA.
Umar Ghafoor has no Generals backing him, he simply has right the ingrediants for success. He is smart, a good worker and above all a good diplomat. Started as an SA to the MD in 2001 and has grown to a Deputy Managing Director in 2006.
very admirable especialy in an organisation like PIA.
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New DMD - The News 14 Dec

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Farooq Shah retires from PIA
KARACHI: Syed Farooq H Shah, Deputy Managing Director, PIA, retired from the service of the Corporation with effect from Tuesday, December 12, 2006, after serving the national carrier for three decades. He served the airline with zeal, dedication and enthusiasm and PIA thanks him and wishes him the best in his future endeavours. PIA has announced that effective from December 13, 2006, Umar Ghafoor, Senior Vice President (Flight Service) has been appointed Acting Deputy Managing Director, with his responsibilities covering engineering, flight operation, sales, flight services, coordination and procurement and logistics, reporting as DMD to the chairman. Umar Ghafoor started his professional career as a Cadet Flight Engineer with PIA after graduating from Punjab University. He has flown as flight engineer on Boeing 707/720, Dc-10, and Boeing 747 where he is presently doing his flying duties. He was an instructor on all these aircraft just as he is currently an instructor on Boeing 747’s.
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PIA wants to have me on their management board.

I'd soon get the profits soaring.

But Inshallah whoever does take up the position will be as eager as me to see PIA flying higher than ever.
You can't be all things to all people...so just be nice !
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Re: New DMD - The News 14 Dec

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zerbaer wrote:Farooq Shah retires from PIA
KARACHI: Syed Farooq H Shah, Deputy Managing Director, PIA, retired from the service of the Corporation with effect from Tuesday, December 12, 2006, after serving the national carrier for three decades. He served the airline with zeal, dedication and enthusiasm and PIA thanks him and wishes him the best in his future endeavours. PIA has announced that effective from December 13, 2006, Umar Ghafoor, Senior Vice President (Flight Service) has been appointed Acting Deputy Managing Director, with his responsibilities covering engineering, flight operation, sales, flight services, coordination and procurement and logistics, reporting as DMD to the chairman. Umar Ghafoor started his professional career as a Cadet Flight Engineer with PIA after graduating from Punjab University. He has flown as flight engineer on Boeing 707/720, Dc-10, and Boeing 747 where he is presently doing his flying duties. He was an instructor on all these aircraft just as he is currently an instructor on Boeing 747’s.

Zerbaer, do you think that Umer Ghafoor can handle all these areas since in flight service has come under a lot of criticism lately.
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Zerbaer, do you think that Umer Ghafoor can handle all these areas since in flight service has come under a lot of criticism lately.
FMC.... One only has to look at his previous performances to decide. He was SA then Director Co-od to head Chorman Ahmed Saeed & then on to other more thrilling positions. I don't think he can manage a fleet of a dozen auto rickshaws let alone the core functions of an airline that are related to aircraft.
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zerbaer wrote:
Zerbaer, do you think that Umer Ghafoor can handle all these areas since in flight service has come under a lot of criticism lately.
FMC.... One only has to look at his previous performances to decide. He was SA then Director Co-od to head Chorman Ahmed Saeed & then on to other more thrilling positions. I don't think he can manage a fleet of a dozen auto rickshaws let alone the core functions of an airline that are related to aircraft.
Seems he will fill AVM Niaz's boots.
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F27 wrote:
zerbaer wrote:
Zerbaer, do you think that Umer Ghafoor can handle all these areas since in flight service has come under a lot of criticism lately.
FMC.... One only has to look at his previous performances to decide. He was SA then Director Co-od to head Chorman Ahmed Saeed & then on to other more thrilling positions. I don't think he can manage a fleet of a dozen auto rickshaws let alone the core functions of an airline that are related to aircraft.
Seems he will fill AVM Niaz's boots.


As cheetah states that "Umar Ghafoor has no Generals backing him, (to which I dont believe), cannot fill AVM Niaz's boots. What AVM had done with PIA, need balls to survive after that.
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FULLTHRUST wrote:
F27 wrote:
zerbaer wrote:
Zerbaer, do you think that Umer Ghafoor can handle all these areas since in flight service has come under a lot of criticism lately.
FMC.... One only has to look at his previous performances to decide. He was SA then Director Co-od to head Chorman Ahmed Saeed & then on to other more thrilling positions. I don't think he can manage a fleet of a dozen auto rickshaws let alone the core functions of an airline that are related to aircraft.
Seems he will fill AVM Niaz's boots.


As cheetah states that "Umar Ghafoor has no Generals backing him, (to which I dont believe), cannot fill AVM Niaz's boots. What AVM had done with PIA, need balls to survive after that.

Balls of Armoured Steel you mean?
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Balls made up of Tungsten Carbide or may be Titanium
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Balls with epoxy steel or araldite as fillers. When applied hard to remove.
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well full thrust your loathe seems to know no bounds. being a flight engineer is more eligible for a high profile position then a pilot many of which have been made directors in the past with political clout. umar ghafoors handling of the mentioned areas will come to him as a light breeze given his past background. being a flt engineer he is well aware of the challenges facing the flt ops dept. he started off as the chief flight engineer 707 and later on rose to the position of CFE,liasing and working with all chief pilots. he went on to become the special asst to ex pia chairman ahmed saeed where he got a proper feel of how to run the whole airline since he was advising him on all matters . in ahmed saeeds absence he along with khurshid anwer the ex chief operating officer was calling the shots and making all crucial decisions. he was then awarded with the additional position of director cordination . following a few good months ahmed saeed assigned him the flight services department. during his position as SA and DFS he sucseeded capt ejaz harron as director airport servives donning three hats at the same time. his managerial knack kept him head of the flight services dept which now by the way covers a wide array of areas ranging from airport services, such as traffic,ticketing,and cabin crew recruitment and scheduling. in brevity hes been around long enough to warrant this position over an army col or a matriculate pilot.
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he went on to become the special asst to ex pia chairman ahmed saeed where he got a proper feel of how to run the whole airline since he was advising him on all matters .

First of all I dont want to get into FE Pilot or engineer stuff again. What I know is ch ahmad saeed SCREWED the airline, with the HELP of people like AVMs, Cols, as you said matriculate Pilots, and flight engineers. and i want to clear one more thing here, NOT ALL THE FLIGHT ENGINEERS ARE GRADUATE ENGINEERS, there are MATRICULATE FLIGHT ENGINEERS as well
during his position as SA and DFS he sucseeded capt ejaz harron as director airport servives donning three hats at the same time. his managerial knack kept him head of the flight services dept which now by the way covers a wide array of areas ranging from airport services, such as traffic,ticketing,and cabin crew recruitment and scheduling
He must be given pride of performance for all that. why dont you ask your FE uncle to remove one D from his title, and become MD so that he could better oversee all departments, in such a case he would be eligible for a new HAT everyday!
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well he for one is a graduate FE. his secret for sucsess has been his pro management stance over his community and the people he has worked with. his policies may be seen as employee unfriendly,but they suit origanizational goals. right from the begining he has kept emotions away from work . as CFE he was responsible for relegating a chunk of FEs from the 747 to A300 on the premise of meeting requirements propotionately, resulting in a severe backlash from FENA in the form of a strike just prior to the hajj operation. that decision was partly reversed and he was shortly asked to step down. the decision made sense but union interests swept him away. he is now in a securer position since union activities remain suspended. as DFS/DAS he proposed grounding of all female cabin crew reaching the 45 mark and a blanket reassesment of all cabin crew to reevaulate their efficiency. since hes been intensively trained in engineering it wont be easy to fool him with warped facts and figures and belonging from the flt ops dept he knows how to run it to the best productivity. i just wish him luck with this new position
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F.K wrote:well he for one is a graduate FE. his secret for sucsess has been his pro management stance over his community and the people he has worked with. his policies may be seen as employee unfriendly,but they suit origanizational goals. right from the begining he has kept emotions away from work . as CFE he was responsible for relegating a chunk of FEs from the 747 to A300 on the premise of meeting requirements propotionately, resulting in a severe backlash from FENA in the form of a strike just prior to the hajj operation. that decision was partly reversed and he was shortly asked to step down. the decision made sense but union interests swept him away. he is now in a securer position since union activities remain suspended. as DFS/DAS he proposed grounding of all female cabin crew reaching the 45 mark and a blanket reassesment of all cabin crew to reevaulate their efficiency. since hes been intensively trained in engineering it wont be easy to fool him with warped facts and figures and belonging from the flt ops dept he knows how to run it to the best productivity. i just wish him luck with this new position
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some people work their way up instead of sitting back and pointing fingers
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