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EU to keep a "watchful eye" on PIA

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The commission said it would keep a "watchful eye" on Pulkovo Aviation certified in Russia, Pakistan International Airways, Ghana's Johnsons Air, and Ajet (the former Helios Airways) certified in Cyprus, to see that corrective action they and control authorities have promised is implemented.
News Link: EU adds DAS Air Cargo, Dairo Air Services to aviation blacklist
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Re: EU to keep a "watchful eye" on PIA

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Gosh, is PIA's safety really that bad?? The quicker the 747 classics leave, the better.

Its also interseting to note that Air Universal is banned from the EU. Haven't PIA got these planes for the Haj flights???

BTW Bangladesh Airlines should be on this list as well.
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Still don't know what is the problem??

EU will keep watchfull eye on what part of PIA ? Only I can think of Beautifull women, Jealously on part about how a third world country like Pakistan has 777 when many European countries don't.

Can this charge be more specific.
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ITS more of a political isue.PIA went for assistance for acquiring EASA and JAR 145 from European Union which were under the impression that PIA will be getting thier Airbus for fleet renovation but we ended up with B777 .The Eu gave its assistance in the form of consulatcy ,expertese and other logistiacl assistance.
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AM wrote:ITS more of a political isue.PIA went for assistance for acquiring EASA and JAR 145 from European Union which were under the impression that PIA will be getting thier Airbus for fleet renovation but we ended up with B777 .The Eu gave its assistance in the form of consulatcy ,expertese and other logistiacl assistance.
AM You are partially right, the EASA and JAR OPS 145 clearances and approvals were obtained politically, but the real cause for which EU is now watchfull is absolutely correct. This is in regard with 743s and A310s. Just have a look on PIA operations in the near past, the number of flight cancelled and delayed due to technical status of the aircraft.
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Let me give you guys a clue, figure out yourselves;

Go to Google earth and have a look on KHI Jinnah Terminal departure stands, and have a look on any European destination's departure stands, you will find one obvious reason.
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Maybe its time the CAA starts looking into upgrading its airports to meet the standards or places like LHR/DXB. They make enough $$$ from the high landing and service fees :roll:
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See Jang 25 Oct. 2006: http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/oct2006-dai ... 6/main.htm

See EU Official Journal for: COMMISSION REGULATION (EC) No 1543/2006
of 12 October 2006.
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The Jang news report says PIA's two B747-200B Combis & three B747-300s are no longer allowed in European countries while three B747-300s and five A310-300s of the airline have been given conditional approval for flights to Europe.

Does someone know the registrations of three B747-300s stopped from flying to Europe and registrations of five A310s given conditional approval for flights to Europe?
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The Jang news report says PIA's two B747-200B Combis & three B747-300s are no longer allowed in European countries while three B747-300s and five A310-300s of the airline have been given conditional approval for flights to Europe.
Is this true??

Shocking news. What is going on at PIA engineering??

Have all the good engineers moved to the Gulf carriers???

The Houston flight is still showing as being operated by a 747M (combi) while one of the Karachi-London flights is also shown as a combi flight.

If the combis are banned from the EU then how come PIA is still using these planes on these flights.
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Abbas Ali wrote:The Jang news report says PIA's two B747-200B Combis & three B747-300s are no longer allowed in European countries while three B747-300s and five A310-300s of the airline have been given conditional approval for flights to Europe.

Does someone know the registrations of three B747-300s stopped from flying to Europe and registrations of five A310s given conditional approval for flights to Europe?
Below are PK tails OK by EU to operate:
B743: BFY, BFU, BFX
A310: BEQ, BEB, BEC, BGO, BGR

Rest of the B747 & A310 a/c are subject to PK's maintenance compliance/correction plan submission of which is thought to be well overdue.
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combi was in london yesterday for Khi flight
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Post by zerbaer »

PIA have still have not been actually put on the banned list - it is down to the short strokes, though. Continued failure to comply will ensure the ban.

Maintenance deficiencies willfull or otherwise, will guaranty the same fate for B777s forcing PK to wet lease a/c. This is the only choice given to some of the defaulting operators. Believe PK is already hot to wet lease a B777!

Wonder what implications are lurking for the infamous JAR/EASA 145 maintenance organisation approval of PK Engg.
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Post by Charliedelta11 »

..from next month..no 747 will be operating flights to Europe..just the middle east..the T7 will e taking over London , Houston , and Manchester...
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zerbaer wrote: Below are PK tails OK by EU to operate:
B743: BFY, BFU, BFX
A310: BEQ, BEB, BEC, BGO, BGR
Thank you zerbaer. Inclusion of PIA's youngerst B747-300 (AP-BGG) and youngest A310 (AP-BEU) in ban list is surprising.
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