Female Passenger Allowed to Visit PIA Flight PK-853 Aircraft Cockpit
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Female Passenger Allowed to Visit PIA Flight PK-853 Aircraft Cockpit
According to ARY News, cockpit crew of PIA flight PK-852 allowed a female passenger to sit in aircraft cockpit during landing in violation of flight safety rules/regulations.
Flight PK-852 is operated from Lahore to Tokyo via Islamabad & Beijing.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/pk852
The news channel showed the video of a young female passenger coming from cockpit and apparently a PIA cabin crew member trying to prevent recording of video by moving aircraft curtain in front of the camera.
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Flight PK-852 is operated from Lahore to Tokyo via Islamabad & Beijing.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/pk852
The news channel showed the video of a young female passenger coming from cockpit and apparently a PIA cabin crew member trying to prevent recording of video by moving aircraft curtain in front of the camera.
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Visit to aircraft cockpit by female passenger is being investigated by PIA.
PIA is contacting crew in Beijing to ascertain the facts.
No compromise on safety of PIA passengers, says airline's spokesperson.
The foreigner female passenger was allowed by pilot to visit the cockpit during the flight.
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Re: Female Passenger Allowed to Visit PIA Flight PK-852 Aircraft Cockpit
Whats the big deal in it? Is it some sort of recent restriction imposed by PIA as part of company's policy for not allowing anyone visit the cockpit? I have seen numerous videos of PIA aircraft where landing and take off of the aircraft is filmed by renowned photographers. If they are allowed for this, why aint other passengers on sole discretion of the pilot?
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^ I think in the case of major international airlines that follow flight safety rules, professional aviation photographers need to obtain proper approval/security clearance from airline/aviation authorities for in-flight cockpit photography/videography.
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Re: Female Passenger Allowed to Visit PIA Flight PK-852 Aircraft Cockpit
The aircraft was flying from Tokyo to Beijing as PK-853 and the female passenger is a Chinese national, according to a number of news channels.
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Re: Female Passenger Allowed to Visit PIA Flight PK-852 Aircraft Cockpit
According to statement of PIA spokesperson:
Passenger can be taken to aircraft cockpit.
There's no harm in taking passenger to aircraft cockpit.
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Passenger can be taken to aircraft cockpit.
There's no harm in taking passenger to aircraft cockpit.
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Re: Female Passenger Allowed to Visit PIA Flight PK-852 Aircraft Cockpit
The actual video is on FB and is very cheap.
A man is filming the lady without her permission, then follows her back to Club class and begins asking her questions about her experience on PIA, her destination, etc.
When she complains that she is being filmed, the crew politely intervene but the man begins abusing and threatening to complain about the incident.
Rather than target the airline, maybe the passenger should be in hot water for violation of privacy and also disturbance as he was entering a class that he wasn't in, since it seems he himself was a economy passenger. Media just needs something to target PIA on, although it was good to see comments supporting the airline and crew rather than the man.
A man is filming the lady without her permission, then follows her back to Club class and begins asking her questions about her experience on PIA, her destination, etc.
When she complains that she is being filmed, the crew politely intervene but the man begins abusing and threatening to complain about the incident.
Rather than target the airline, maybe the passenger should be in hot water for violation of privacy and also disturbance as he was entering a class that he wasn't in, since it seems he himself was a economy passenger. Media just needs something to target PIA on, although it was good to see comments supporting the airline and crew rather than the man.
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Re: Female Passenger Allowed to Visit PIA Flight PK-852 Aircraft Cockpit
Seems the female passenger was travelling in Business Class of PIA Boeing 777-2Q8ER registration AP-BMG.
Most recently AP-BMG performed Islamabad to Tokyo via Beijing flight PK-852 on May 7 and Tokyo to Islamabad via Beijing flight PK-853 on May 8.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bmg
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Most recently AP-BMG performed Islamabad to Tokyo via Beijing flight PK-852 on May 7 and Tokyo to Islamabad via Beijing flight PK-853 on May 8.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bmg
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Re: Female Passenger Allowed to Visit PIA Flight PK-852 Aircraft Cockpit
There were only two person in Club class from Tokyo to Beijing in that flight. Chinese woman and video maker.
Video maker name is Irfan Siddiqui, A columnist of Jang newspaper and Geo correspondent in Tokyo.
His Picture from Jang newspaper .
Actually he did what media do now a days. Make a small news, a breaking news.
Video maker name is Irfan Siddiqui, A columnist of Jang newspaper and Geo correspondent in Tokyo.
His Picture from Jang newspaper .
Actually he did what media do now a days. Make a small news, a breaking news.
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Re: Female Passenger Allowed to Visit PIA Flight PK-852 Aircraft Cockpit
Only if she knew how to make biryani, She would have been spared from this ordeal.
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The Director General of Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) has ordered an investigation into the incident, CAA spokesperson said.
The video maker says that cabin crew of the flight urged him to highlight this flight safety issue. Both the video maker and the female passenger who visited the cockpit of the airborne aircraft were travelling in the Business Class. The female passenger stayed in the cockpit for more than two hours, according to the video maker.
https://www.geo.tv/latest/141100-PIA-pi ... to-cockpit
It was flight PK-853 from Tokyo to Islamabad via Beijing performed on May 8 by PIA Boeing 777-28QER registration AP-BMG.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/pk853
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The video maker says that cabin crew of the flight urged him to highlight this flight safety issue. Both the video maker and the female passenger who visited the cockpit of the airborne aircraft were travelling in the Business Class. The female passenger stayed in the cockpit for more than two hours, according to the video maker.
https://www.geo.tv/latest/141100-PIA-pi ... to-cockpit
It was flight PK-853 from Tokyo to Islamabad via Beijing performed on May 8 by PIA Boeing 777-28QER registration AP-BMG.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/pk853
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Re: Female Passenger Allowed to Visit PIA Flight PK-853 Aircraft Cockpit
I question you please can you ANSWER back to me
1) Yes or No Is passenger's ticket revenue or non-revenue?
2) IF passenger's ticket non-reveue YES or NO staff ID card or photocopy of staff ID card if spouse or parents of staff ID or travel industry?
3) YES or NO Staff ID ticket non-revenue allow jump seat and access cockpit?
4) I know PIA's staff ID ticket allowed jump seat cabin crew & cockpit observation seat
5) some other airline still allow staff ID ticket to cockpit & jump seat with Captain's permission & discretion
6) IF revenue passenger ticket then AFTER Landing and AFTER passenger disembarked in ground then cabin crew allow show passenger revenue ticket to visit cockpit no problem
7) PK853 Tokyo to Beijing is NOT USA transatlantic as there no issue no problem
1) Yes or No Is passenger's ticket revenue or non-revenue?
2) IF passenger's ticket non-reveue YES or NO staff ID card or photocopy of staff ID card if spouse or parents of staff ID or travel industry?
3) YES or NO Staff ID ticket non-revenue allow jump seat and access cockpit?
4) I know PIA's staff ID ticket allowed jump seat cabin crew & cockpit observation seat
5) some other airline still allow staff ID ticket to cockpit & jump seat with Captain's permission & discretion
6) IF revenue passenger ticket then AFTER Landing and AFTER passenger disembarked in ground then cabin crew allow show passenger revenue ticket to visit cockpit no problem
7) PK853 Tokyo to Beijing is NOT USA transatlantic as there no issue no problem
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Re: Female Passenger Allowed to Visit PIA Flight PK-853 Aircraft Cockpit
But one other Alarming thing was that flight had only two pax in business class. PIA really need to work hard to fill that in.
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I remember few weeks back on a flight from Europe Some Jang Group Reporter gave his card to the crew for the captain asking for an upgrade and a visit to the cockpit which was politely refused..this whole media fooled the nation on Lal Masjid and Chief Justice Case and now look where is the country standing
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Re: Female Passenger Allowed to Visit PIA Flight PK-853 Aircraft Cockpit
I think in off-season, from Tokyo, load is pretty low in Business anyway due to the stopover in Beijing, but only 1 passenger continuing on to Pakistan in Business means Tokyo load in off season is too low.
Even if 15 other pax boarded in Beijing, atleast 5 should fly from NRT.
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