PIA Premier Flight PK-757 Diverted to London Stansted Airport

[t_kaay]

According to latest reports:

The aircraft was diverted to London Stansted Airport to arrest a 52-year old man wanted by British authorities/Scotland Yard for financial fraud case.

Aircraft being towed to London Stansted Airport terminal building where passengers will be shifted to airport lounge.

The aircraft will depart for London Heathrow Airport after getting clearance from British authorities.

Abbas

What the heck man! If some body is wanted for Financial fraud Fighter Jet will put on it? Pakistan Should raise this BS to diplomatic level or try to put F-16 on some BA flight while overflying Pakistan with suspicion of some one too noisy on PK Airspace.

If they want to arrest he can easily be arrested while he deplane at LHR. Why this whole drama is created?

Calm down, that's more than likely not the reason for the diversion. As you say, the passenger could have easily been detained when disembarking at Heathrow if he was just wanted by the police. Stansted is the designated airport for security incidents and the aircraft will have diverted for something that has happened on board. Chances are that the passenger got disruptive, said something to cabin crew which was unacceptable and it escalated from there. Just another example of the fact that Pakistanis have an attitude problem as soon as they get on an aircraft, especially a Pakistani carrier. Rude, arrogant, not listening to cabin crew.....I've seen it all first hand. They don't behave like that on ME carriers.

Edit: there were 2 arrests at Stansted. One for the disturbance that caused the diversion. The other was a pre planned arrest that would have taken place at Heathrow for someone who was wanted for fraud. The second arrest was NOT connected to the diversion.

The passenger is definitely on fault, or Rude, arrogant, not listening to cabin crew.... behavior is not acceptable at all. But standard practice for this situation is to report police at the arriving station. Which happens pretty much every part of the world. Scrambling Jet for this scenario is over kill and it's too much.

Not sure if you understand the role of Stansted airport and the escort fighter jets so let me explain . Whilst you are correct that a simple misbehaving passenger could be dealt with at the destination airport, in this case a threat against the aircraft will have been made in which case the aircraft is diverted to Stansted and parked remotely. This is standard practice for any aircraft that is in this situation in UK Airspace within reach of Stansted. Reading between the lines, I am guessing the passenger got into an argument with cabin crew/flight crew and said something connected with a bomb or hijack. News agencies reporting maybe a telephone call threat made. The threat is relayed to ATC and they inform the RAF. You might feel it's overkill, but you, like me, are not aware of exactly what happened.

[Abbas Ali]

PIA Boeing 777-300ER registration AP-BID performing airline's Islamabad to London flight PK-785.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/pk785

Abbas

[ammad]

According to latest reports:

The aircraft was diverted to London Stansted Airport to arrest a 52-year old man wanted by British authorities/Scotland Yard for financial fraud case.

Aircraft being towed to London Stansted Airport terminal building where passengers will be shifted to airport lounge.

The aircraft will depart for London Heathrow Airport after getting clearance from British authorities.

Abbas

What the heck man! If some body is wanted for Financial fraud Fighter Jet will put on it? Pakistan Should raise this BS to diplomatic level or try to put F-16 on some BA flight while overflying Pakistan with suspicion of some one too noisy on PK Airspace.

If they want to arrest he can easily be arrested while he deplane at LHR. Why this whole drama is created?

Calm down, that's more than likely not the reason for the diversion. As you say, the passenger could have easily been detained when disembarking at Heathrow if he was just wanted by the police. Stansted is the designated airport for security incidents and the aircraft will have diverted for something that has happened on board. Chances are that the passenger got disruptive, said something to cabin crew which was unacceptable and it escalated from there. Just another example of the fact that Pakistanis have an attitude problem as soon as they get on an aircraft, especially a Pakistani carrier. Rude, arrogant, not listening to cabin crew.....I've seen it all first hand. They don't behave like that on ME carriers.

Edit: there were 2 arrests at Stansted. One for the disturbance that caused the diversion. The other was a pre planned arrest that would have taken place at Heathrow for someone who was wanted for fraud. The second arrest was NOT connected to the diversion.

The passenger is definitely on fault, or Rude, arrogant, not listening to cabin crew.... behavior is not acceptable at all. But standard practice for this situation is to report police at the arriving station. Which happens pretty much every part of the world. Scrambling Jet for this scenario is over kill and it's too much.

Not sure if you understand the role of Stansted airport and the escort fighter jets so let me explain . Whilst you are correct that a simple misbehaving passenger could be dealt with at the destination airport, in this case a threat against the aircraft will have been made in which case the aircraft is diverted to Stansted and parked remotely. This is standard practice for any aircraft that is in this situation in UK Airspace within reach of Stansted. Reading between the lines, I am guessing the passenger got into an argument with cabin crew/flight crew and said something connected with a bomb or hijack. The threat is relayed to ATC and they inform the RAF. You might feel it's overkill, but you, like me, are not aware of exactly what happened.

Open your eyes. My Question is Why Jet was scrambled for this **Non Hijacking** Scenario.

[t_kaay]

According to latest reports:

The aircraft was diverted to London Stansted Airport to arrest a 52-year old man wanted by British authorities/Scotland Yard for financial fraud case.

Aircraft being towed to London Stansted Airport terminal building where passengers will be shifted to airport lounge.

The aircraft will depart for London Heathrow Airport after getting clearance from British authorities.

Abbas

What the heck man! If some body is wanted for Financial fraud Fighter Jet will put on it? Pakistan Should raise this BS to diplomatic level or try to put F-16 on some BA flight while overflying Pakistan with suspicion of some one too noisy on PK Airspace.

If they want to arrest he can easily be arrested while he deplane at LHR. Why this whole drama is created?

Calm down, that's more than likely not the reason for the diversion. As you say, the passenger could have easily been detained when disembarking at Heathrow if he was just wanted by the police. Stansted is the designated airport for security incidents and the aircraft will have diverted for something that has happened on board. Chances are that the passenger got disruptive, said something to cabin crew which was unacceptable and it escalated from there. Just another example of the fact that Pakistanis have an attitude problem as soon as they get on an aircraft, especially a Pakistani carrier. Rude, arrogant, not listening to cabin crew.....I've seen it all first hand. They don't behave like that on ME carriers.

Edit: there were 2 arrests at Stansted. One for the disturbance that caused the diversion. The other was a pre planned arrest that would have taken place at Heathrow for someone who was wanted for fraud. The second arrest was NOT connected to the diversion.

The passenger is definitely on fault, or Rude, arrogant, not listening to cabin crew.... behavior is not acceptable at all. But standard practice for this situation is to report police at the arriving station. Which happens pretty much every part of the world. Scrambling Jet for this scenario is over kill and it's too much.

Not sure if you understand the role of Stansted airport and the escort fighter jets so let me explain . Whilst you are correct that a simple misbehaving passenger could be dealt with at the destination airport, in this case a threat against the aircraft will have been made in which case the aircraft is diverted to Stansted and parked remotely. This is standard practice for any aircraft that is in this situation in UK Airspace within reach of Stansted. Reading between the lines, I am guessing the passenger got into an argument with cabin crew/flight crew and said something connected with a bomb or hijack. The threat is relayed to ATC and they inform the RAF. You might feel it's overkill, but you, like me, are not aware of exactly what happened.

Open your eyes. My Question is Why Jet was scrambled for this **Non Hijacking** Scenario.

I don't need to open my eyes, I can answer your question with my eyes shut. There does not have to be a hijack situation to scramble the jets. There was a phone call made to PIA. Imagine the following EXAMPLE of what MAY have been said:

"There's a bomb on board which will explode when the aircraft descends over London. Don't try and divert as we have someone on the plane who will detonate or take over the plane. "

In such a case, jets will be scrambled.

I don't know how many other examples you need for you to understand. It's sovereign Airspace, NATS (atc) and the RAF can and will do as they see fit.

[Abbas Ali]

PIA Premier Airbus A330-300 (4R-ALN) flown as PK-757 from London Stansted Airport to London Heathrow Airport.

The A330 departed from Stansted at 9:30 AM and landed at Heathrow at 9:55 AM.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/4r-aln

Abbas

[t_kaay]

According to latest reports:

The aircraft was diverted to London Stansted Airport to arrest a 52-year old man wanted by British authorities/Scotland Yard for financial fraud case.

Aircraft being towed to London Stansted Airport terminal building where passengers will be shifted to airport lounge.

The aircraft will depart for London Heathrow Airport after getting clearance from British authorities.

Abbas

What the heck man! If some body is wanted for Financial fraud Fighter Jet will put on it? Pakistan Should raise this BS to diplomatic level or try to put F-16 on some BA flight while overflying Pakistan with suspicion of some one too noisy on PK Airspace.

If they want to arrest he can easily be arrested while he deplane at LHR. Why this whole drama is created?

Calm down, that's more than likely not the reason for the diversion. As you say, the passenger could have easily been detained when disembarking at Heathrow if he was just wanted by the police. Stansted is the designated airport for security incidents and the aircraft will have diverted for something that has happened on board. Chances are that the passenger got disruptive, said something to cabin crew which was unacceptable and it escalated from there. Just another example of the fact that Pakistanis have an attitude problem as soon as they get on an aircraft, especially a Pakistani carrier. Rude, arrogant, not listening to cabin crew.....I've seen it all first hand. They don't behave like that on ME carriers.

Edit: there were 2 arrests at Stansted. One for the disturbance that caused the diversion. The other was a pre planned arrest that would have taken place at Heathrow for someone who was wanted for fraud. The second arrest was NOT connected to the diversion.

The passenger is definitely on fault, or Rude, arrogant, not listening to cabin crew.... behavior is not acceptable at all. But standard practice for this situation is to report police at the arriving station. Which happens pretty much every part of the world. Scrambling Jet for this scenario is over kill and it's too much.

Not sure if you understand the role of Stansted airport and the escort fighter jets so let me explain . Whilst you are correct that a simple misbehaving passenger could be dealt with at the destination airport, in this case a threat against the aircraft will have been made in which case the aircraft is diverted to Stansted and parked remotely. This is standard practice for any aircraft that is in this situation in UK Airspace within reach of Stansted. Reading between the lines, I am guessing the passenger got into an argument with cabin crew/flight crew and said something connected with a bomb or hijack. The threat is relayed to ATC and they inform the RAF. You might feel it's overkill, but you, like me, are not aware of exactly what happened.

Open your eyes. My Question is Why Jet was scrambled for this **Non Hijacking** Scenario.

I don't need to open my eyes, I can answer your question with my eyes shut. There does not have to be a hijack situation to scramble the jets. There was a phone call made to PIA. Imagine the following EXAMPLE of what MAY have been said:

"There's a bomb on board which will explode when the aircraft descends over London. Don't try and divert as we have someone on the plane who will detonate or take over the plane. "

In such a case, jets will be scrambled.

I don't know how many other examples you need for you to understand. It's sovereign Airspace, NATS (atc) and the RAF can and will do as they see fit.

You seem to think the jets were scrambled for the arrest of the passenger accused of fraud. That wasn't the case. Unconnected arrest as I already stated previously.

[Abbas Ali]

PIA Premier Airbus A330-300 (4R-ALN) departed from London Heathrow at 6:13 PM to Lahore as flight PK-758 that was scheduled to depart at 5:45 PM.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/4r-aln

Meanwhile, PIA Boeing 777-340ER (AP-BID) departed from London Heathrow at 5:17 PM to Islamabad as flight PK-786 apparently that was to be performed by 4R-ALN yesterday with 8:00 PM departure time.

AP-BID had arrived in Heathrow as flight PK-785 from Islamabad.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bid

So, apparently only one flight i.e. PK-786 of February 7 suffered major delay of 21 hours due to this incident.

Abbas

[ammad]

There does not have to be a hijack situation to scramble the jets. There was a phone call made to PIA. Imagine the following EXAMPLE of what MAY have been said:

"There's a bomb on board which will explode when the aircraft descends over London. Don't try and divert as we have someone on the plane who will detonate or take over the plane. "

In such a case, jets will be scrambled.

I don't know how many other examples you need for you to understand. It's sovereign Airspace, NATS (atc) and the RAF can and will do as they see fit.

T_Kaaay, In your EXAMPLE, scenario which you have created , In reality there was nothing like that. So, you can put any example or any other Imaginary thoughts, it doesn't matter at all, but it won't Justify. Not sure how much time and energy i need to put to describe that Imaginary EXAMPLES won't help here.

This is excess show of power on civilian Jet, hence, it should be taken and handle at official level.

[t_kaay]

There does not have to be a hijack situation to scramble the jets. There was a phone call made to PIA. Imagine the following EXAMPLE of what MAY have been said:

"There's a bomb on board which will explode when the aircraft descends over London. Don't try and divert as we have someone on the plane who will detonate or take over the plane. "

In such a case, jets will be scrambled.

I don't know how many other examples you need for you to understand. It's sovereign Airspace, NATS (atc) and the RAF can and will do as they see fit.

T_Kaaay, In your EXAMPLE, scenario which you have created , In reality there was nothing like that. So, you can put any example or any other Imaginary thoughts, it doesn't matter at all, but it won't Justify. Not sure how much time and energy i need to put to describe that Imaginary EXAMPLES won't help here.

This is excess show of power on civilian Jet, hence, it should be taken and handle at official level.

You asked why jets were scrambled in a non hijacking event and I gave you an example, one of many, that could result in the despatch of an escort. You say that in reality that didn't happen. How do you know? Maybe you could tell us all what happened. You seem to be still under the impression that the RAF were sent in connection with the arrest made of the passenger accused of fraud. THAT WAS NOT THE CASE. If it was, I would have agreed it was unnecessary. There were TWO unrelated incidents. Until you understand that, you can't be helped.

You seem to be the only one jumping up and down about this, that must surely show you something?

[Shahab]

We don't know the circumstances of the diversion but my personal guess is it was something serious enough for scrambling of jets and forcing a diversion. The posted sky news link does say that the police was actually waiting at Heathrow airport to make the arrest. The police then had to drive to Stanstead to make the arrest.

So until we know the exact reason for diversion, everything else is just mere speculation At the end, i'm glad whatever it was, it just proved to be a false alarm.

[t_kaay]

We don't know the circumstances of the diversion but my personal guess is it was something serious enough for scrambling of jets and forcing a diversion. The posted sky news link does say that the police was actually waiting at Heathrow airport to make the arrest. The police then had to drive to Stanstead to make the arrest.

So until we know the exact reason for diversion, everything else is just mere speculation At the end, i'm glad whatever it was, it just proved to be a false alarm.

My point exactly. Ammad bhai can't grasp the fact that for the escort jets to be scrambled, certain criteria MUST be met, regardless of the airline concerned. That criteria WAS met and action was carried out as per procedure. End of story. PIA haven't made an issue. CAA haven't made an issue. NATS haven't made an issue. RAF haven't made an issue. Everyone has accepted it, apart from Ammad bhai!

[Abdulrafeysiddiqui]

The issue came on the news and went away, but this thread.......

[ammad]

The issue came on the news and went away, but this thread.......

Ok,

[Abbas Ali]

PIA Premier Airbus A330-300 (4R-ALN) photographed at London Stansted Airport on February 7, 2017.

Dramatic end to apparently last PIA Premier flight to UK performed by this A330.


A330 PIA by Przemyslaw Burdzinski, on Flickr

Abbas

[yyzflyer]

return the aircraft to end this "premier" service