Emirates Planning Service for Pakistan's Domestic Flight Passengers

[Abbas Ali]

Gerry's dnata is a good example of successful foreign investment in Pakistan's aviation industry.

https://www.dnata.com/en/global-network ... c/pakistan

Abbas

[Pakistan-1]

Yet Dnata is the worst ground service provider at the Pakistani airports

[Shahab]

Do you have any facts and figures to back up your argument? How is Dnata the worst ground service provider at the airport?

Bottom line, open up aviation sector. Let FDI come in. It is only a good thing for the vast majority of people in the long run. Compete or fold, quite simple really.

[Pakistan-1]

Do you have any facts and figures to back up your argument? How is Dnata the worst ground service provider at the airport?

Broken buses,Checkin guys trying to make a quick buck by trying to fool unsuspecting passengers,Unprofessional staff ! what other evidence do you need

[Abbas Ali]

Yet Dnata is the worst ground service provider at the airports

Dnata was declared Ground Handler of the Year - 2014, 2015, 2016.

Source: https://www.dnata.com/en/news

Abbas

[Pakistan-1]

Yet Dnata is the worst ground service provider at the airports

Dnata was declared Ground Handler of the Year - 2014, 2015, 2016.

Source: https://www.dnata.com/en/news

Abbas

I have only had bad experiences with Dnata

[Shahab]

Do you have any facts and figures to back up your argument? How is Dnata the worst ground service provider at the airport?

Broken buses,Checkin guys trying to make a quick buck by trying to fool unsuspecting passengers,Unprofessional staff ! what other evidence do you need

This is all down to perception. I have not experience any of the above with my numerous travels from various Pakistani airports. Anyway this is going on a tangent now. The question was how is aviation any different then say telecom or banking sector?

[Pakistan-1]

The question was how is aviation any different then say telecom or banking sector?

First you arent risking anyone's life while banking or running a phone company or bank secondly these industries are already mature in Pakistan but the airline industry is still in its infancy and if we let a foreign juggernaut of an airline to operate domestically it will instantly become a monopoly which will kill both PA and NL instantly and PK will once again shrink and reduce the quality of its services in order barely survive.

[Shahab]

First you arent risking anyone's life while banking or running a phone company

Are you implying that Emirates safety record is poor compared to PIA or Bhoja or Airblue

secondly these industries are already mature in Pakistan but the airline industry is still in its infancy

Both Telecom, banking and aviation industries are of equal age. They both started with the creation of Pakistan and Pakistani aviation industry cannot be referred as infancy under any definition of infancy

if we let a foreign juggernaut of an airline to operate domestically it will instantly become a monopoly which will kill both PA and NL instantly and PK will once again shrink and reduce the quality of its services in order barely survive.

Again if they cannot compete it is better that they fold. On a side note, opening up compition (just like in banking or telecom sector) results in more innovation, better quality and choice and most importantly better cost for the wider popultion.

Air blue and Shaheen which are private entities are competing with PIA which regularly receives state aid. Don't you think this is unfair for Shaheen and Air blue. Again compitition is a good thing for the consumer which results in a better product at a cheaper price point. Let's hope Emirates is allowed to start a domestic service in Pakistan. If PIA, Air blue and Shaheen folds we can always invite Qatar and Gul air to setup rival dometic airlines

[CoyBoy]

Pakistan-1 is just sixteen years old, keep that in mind before arguing with him.

[Pakistan-1]

Pakistan-1 is just sixteen years old, keep that in mind before arguing with him.

Age shouldn't matter in such arguments but your knowledge and understanding should

[CoyBoy]

Compared to expereince of 30 years and more? thats the age bracket of most people on here, many with kids your age and some with grandkids same age, you are not even a college student yet, sorry for digressing, just wanted the uncles to know what they are up against.

[taha_imran4]

Don't forget Abbas, Dnata has a merger with Gerry's group in Pakistan. They maybe good globally but in Pakistan most airlines prefer either RAS or Shaheen.

You can't complain if a foreign investor invests in Pakistani Aviation sector. That will help the economy of Pakistan but Emirates coming in as Emirates is not on.

[uzkt01]

Again if they cannot compete it is better that they fold. On a side note, opening up compition (just like in banking or telecom sector) results in more innovation, better quality and choice and most importantly better cost for the wider popultion.

You want competition. Fine. Please tell me if Pakistan allows Emirates to operate domestically what does UAE has to offer in return? Nothing. They will invest initially and get more than double the amount in profits and viz-a-viz giving very hard blow to Pakistani airlines, most of which may even go bankrupt, thus generating more connecting passengers for ME3 and Pakistani aviation sector totally in foreign hands like everything else.

[CoyBoy]

I think this is the furture of aviation, and there might be a local partner involved as well.

Pakistan could benefit in Dubai govt.. giving it prefential treatment in trade, investment, hiring labour, its not just aviation related that some Pakistani airline has to benefit in Dubai or UAE if EK start flying domestic in Pakistan, it goes beyond that into trade, politics and diplomacy.