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BBC Urdu 787 article mentions Najaf and Taif to be added and codeshare talks with Air Canada, Westjet and Malaysia Airlines.

Barcelona being resumed this time with a stop at Paris, Frankfurt, Hong Kong and Al Ain may also restart,
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Resumption of Bangkok service and increase in number of New York flights also planned.

http://www.brecorder.com/pakistan/indus ... venue.html

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US pre-clearence at local airports and nonstop flights to New York are also sought.

A fourth service will be added to Paris.

from BBC article
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Shanghai also being considered.

Increase in number of flights for London also considered.

https://youtu.be/_Lthw1JnVfc

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Have just read on Deutsche Welle Urdu News that PIA is going to resume flights to Germany in 2017 but instead of Frankfurt it will make a stopover in Leipzig (replacing the stopover in MAN) on Route to New York.
"German govt has given PIA fifth freedom rights that will allow PIA to fly passengers and cargo from Germany to New York."
Also planning to return to Barcelona according to the News Report.

Source: http://www.dw.com/ur/پی-آئی-اے-اب-جرمنی ... a-19531669

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That's cool. German CEO steering things well. There is no point for one way transiting at crowded MAN airport versus uncrowded Leipzig for faster onward journey. Leipzig will be cheaper and can help save around 30 to 45 minutes.
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Hamad wrote:Have just read on Deutsche Welle Urdu News that PIA is going to resume flights to Germany in 2017 but instead of Frankfurt it will make a stopover in Leipzig (replacing the stopover in MAN) on Route to New York.
"German govt has given PIA fifth freedom rights that will allow PIA to fly passengers and cargo from Germany to New York."
Also planning to return to Barcelona according to the News Report.

Source: http://www.dw.com/ur/پی-آئی-اے-اب-جرمنی ... a-19531669
Different German News Papers have also reported about that in the last days.

According to various News Report the Route will be Islamabad via Leipzig to New York and will start from Summer 2017.
A Spokesperson of Leipzig Airport confirms such plans, he says that they knows that PIA plans this Route. But he refuses to give more details on this topic and nothing is finalized or decided right now.

So seems to be that everything is in the Pipeline but we have to wait until it has been finalized and Plans are officially confirmed by PIA and Leipzig Airport.

Source (in German): http://www.lvz.de/Leipzig/Lokales/Von-L ... rektfluege

By the way lot of people are confused why PIA should chose LEJ instead of FRA or sth else.
I guess PIA's main purpose is NOT to get PAX Load from LEJ to JFK but furthermore to save time, reduce costs and operate more efficient on the Route to JFK (lower fees, quicker handling, well situated, 24h Operation, etc) as much as possible as PIA is not allowed to operate Non-Stop Flights from PK to the US (due to Safety Reasons) same like recently Kuwait Airways also have to make a stop in Shannon before continuing its Flight to JFK.
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PIA bids invitations for crew accommodation in Leipzig hotels and aircraft ground handling at Leipzig Airport should appear in German/Pakistani publications and PIA website.

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New York via Leipzig is not bad. PIA doesnt have any destination in Germany and France. But there are more German-Pakistanis in Germany. And not too much in France.. So this might be good. But we should also think that SingaPore Airlines Also stop to Frankfurt when to New York. PIA already has a stop in manchester when to jfk. So this will add another destination to PIA :D
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I doubt that now where is Paris? Aaaah, it's Lahore! :D
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Considering PIA has fifth freedom rights to pick up passengers from Manchester to New York, I've always wondered why they havnt routed the return flight through Manchester as well. I know the a direct flight back from New York is attractive to passengers, but surely PIA could use this to capture a small share of passengers between Manchester and New York. It was similar with Chicago via Barcelona, a lot of non pakistani's used PIA for the flights because of the cheaper fares.
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dreamliner99 wrote:Considering PIA has fifth freedom rights to pick up passengers from Manchester to New York, I've always wondered why they havnt routed the return flight through Manchester as well. I know the a direct flight back from New York is attractive to passengers, but surely PIA could use this to capture a small share of passengers between Manchester and New York. It was similar with Chicago via Barcelona, a lot of non pakistani's used PIA for the flights because of the cheaper fares.

Agree with this bro,but PIA can also use Leipzig. Lots of people go to new york from there no doubt.
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^ if not passengers, PIA can carry cargo :)
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I dont think PIA will have fifth freedom rights from Germany to the U.S and if that was the case PIA would have used Frankfurt.

I think it will just be a refueling stop and probably got a better deal then Manchester.
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In interview given to DW, Daniyal Gilani mentioned that PIA would be able to load cargo and passengers from Leipzig, which means 5th freedom right.