You're PIA chariman. Government gives you $1 billion. What plane you buy?

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You're PIA chariman. Government gives you $1 billion. What plane you buy?

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AoA - I hope everyone doing fine.

This is just imaginary thread since government cannot give PIA $1 billion. Perhaps when gov't sell 26% stake and the new company injects similar amount.

My choices for fleet are:

ATR-42 and ATR-72
CS-100
A320
A350-800
B777-200ER
B777-300ER


The reason I picked A350-800 over B787 and A350-900/1000 is because this plane has long range. It can serve places like Sydney, South Africa, Western North American, Latin America and so forth, which a330-900neo cannot. The 3 class seat is 270, which is between a320 150 seats and b777-200er 330 seats. Plus maybe PIA get 777-8x in future, which is 353 seat. Also a350-800 sell only 18, so PIA can get good discount. Assuming 50-60% list price discount, which is 130m~, that's about 8 planes. Also all out economy is 440 seats, which can be useful for Hajj/Umra season.

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As you can see above picture, it's cheaper to operate a350-1000. The reason 777-9x is cheaper per seat is only if all seats are occupied, which is not possible for an airline like PIA since it's direct airline, rather than middle east which bring all people same airport, put everyone in big a380/9x and fly to london/jfk.

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CS-100 at 50% discount can cost $30m. It can be good for Peshawar to Karachi or Lahore to Karachi or Peshawar to Lahore or Peshawar to Quetta. Seats are 120 for 2 class. It's also cheaper aircraft than a320 and more efficient than neo. Only downside is pilot and maintainance training.
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Re: AoA - You're PIA chariman. Government gives you $1 billion. What plane you buy?

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I go to China.

Buy 40 junk planes for 400 millioin dollars.

Pay Nawaz Sharif 300 million dollars.

Keep 300 million dollars for my self.

Move to America, and live like a respectable citizen of the west.
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Amaad Lone wrote:I go to China.

Buy 40 junk planes for 400 millioin dollars.

Pay Nawaz Sharif 300 million dollars.

Keep 300 million dollars for my self.

Move to America, and live like a respectable citizen of the west.
Sir very rude. I am discussing plane and just added a minor story to get it along with. We know PIA desperately needed to replace a310 and solution isn't more b777 or a320s. In 2-3 years a310 will retire and if we place order 1h 2016, we can get a350, a330neo, 787 whatever is decided in time.
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You said its an imaginary thread, so let me imagine myself stealing hundreds of millions of dollars from Pakistan and living like a King.

Hey if Zardari , Nawaz and Altaf Bhai can do it, why cant I.
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Uzair. I think weariness has set in as, choice of aircraft has been discussed at length in other threads on the forum - minus the hypothetical $ 1 billion of course!
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Vaqar Khan wrote:Uzair. I think weariness has set in as, choice of aircraft has been discussed at length in other threads on the forum - minus the hypothetical $ 1 billion of course!
Hello sir. Sorry I am new. Do you mind telling me those thread?

I searched but I only found b777 vs b747 thread with votes and discussion. Nothing about a350.
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The A350 doesn't fit in the PIA fleet because it uses RR engines
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Ideally I would Dry lease
25 787s
35 737Max (To replace the A320s and to expand the regional network )
And have an option of 15 777X for expansion
And I will spend the rest of the money on upgrading the PIA brand and also the PIA owned infrastructure
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