PIA to Wet Lease up to Three Wide Body Aircraft
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This wet lease is supposed to be a short term one for Haj 2015 operation so the A330-800/900 neos are not an option.
This wet lease is supposed to be a short term one for Haj 2015 operation so the A330-800/900 neos are not an option.
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Boeing 747-400 is best option
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^ Only twin-engine wide-body aircraft were sought under this bidding invitation. B747 Hajj flights cannot be operated from airports of Quetta and Peshawar.
Three Boeing 767-300ER aircraft (including a backup/standby aircraft) offered by Mega Maldives Airlines already have met bidding conditions and as wet leased aircraft will take part in PIA Hajj flights operation this year.
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Three Boeing 767-300ER aircraft (including a backup/standby aircraft) offered by Mega Maldives Airlines already have met bidding conditions and as wet leased aircraft will take part in PIA Hajj flights operation this year.
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Are those 767 are the part of long term lease or only restricted to Hajj Operations 2015?
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^ Short term wet lease of two months and ten days from August 18 to October 28 for Hajj flights.
Lease term clearly mentioned in bidding invitation and repeated a number of times in this topic.
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Lease term clearly mentioned in bidding invitation and repeated a number of times in this topic.
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PIA to acquire two Boeing 767-300ER for Hajj operations
Hina Mahgul Rind
Friday, June 26, 2015
KARACHI: The Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has started negotiations with the Mega Maldive Airlines on a wet lease arrangement for acquiring two Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for the coming Hajj season.
According to the copy of the draft of agreement available with The News, (PIA) plans to acquire these Boeing 767-300ER aircraft on wet lease for two months period.The aircraft would be used for transporting passengers and cargo for a lease period, starting from August 10 for the first aircraft (8Q-MEE) and August 15 for the second aircraft (8Q-MEF) and ending on October 28 for both the aircraft. The lease is extendable.
The PIA would pay $5,780 per block hour, including per diem, during the lease period with 300 guaranteed block hours utilisation per month for each aircraft.PIA would also pay $52,000 on account of positioning and repositioning of both aircraft only once during the lease term.
A source said, “This is a strange decision because the PIA management had successfully completed the previous Hajj operations without taking any aircraft on lease, while the aircraft in question would not offer more seats than its own aircraft, ie, Boeing 747, which carries maximum 500 passengers in one trip in an all economy configuration, whereas Boeing 767 will offer only close to 290 seats.”
PIA will have to make the rental payments on bi-weekly basis. It would also provide and pay for the services that include fuel; landing and parking; in-flight catering and crew meals; ground handling during PIA operation; interior cleaning, toilets servicing, external washing and cabin fumigation; notice to airmen (NOTAMS); weather briefing and assistance for filing of flight plan; navigation and noise charges excluding any penalty due to violation thereof.
PIA would also bear all other associated passengers costs and airport expenses, including but not limited to catering, passenger oxygen bottles, handling, parking, Airport tax, apron bus, check-in counter; cargo luggage; mail insurance for the lease term; flight clearance; traffic rights; flight approvals; TA/DA of CAA (Pak) personnel for aircraft and crew clearance; communications by local telephone, fax, and e-mail for business matters.
MMA would provide PIA with five sets of cockpit crew and cabin crew (each set consisting of Captain, First Officer and Cabin Crews) per aircraft together with sufficient Ground Engineers / personnel to cover requirement of operation smoothly and efficiently. The main base of both the aircraft would be Karachi.
Source: The News
Hina Mahgul Rind
Friday, June 26, 2015
KARACHI: The Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has started negotiations with the Mega Maldive Airlines on a wet lease arrangement for acquiring two Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for the coming Hajj season.
According to the copy of the draft of agreement available with The News, (PIA) plans to acquire these Boeing 767-300ER aircraft on wet lease for two months period.The aircraft would be used for transporting passengers and cargo for a lease period, starting from August 10 for the first aircraft (8Q-MEE) and August 15 for the second aircraft (8Q-MEF) and ending on October 28 for both the aircraft. The lease is extendable.
The PIA would pay $5,780 per block hour, including per diem, during the lease period with 300 guaranteed block hours utilisation per month for each aircraft.PIA would also pay $52,000 on account of positioning and repositioning of both aircraft only once during the lease term.
A source said, “This is a strange decision because the PIA management had successfully completed the previous Hajj operations without taking any aircraft on lease, while the aircraft in question would not offer more seats than its own aircraft, ie, Boeing 747, which carries maximum 500 passengers in one trip in an all economy configuration, whereas Boeing 767 will offer only close to 290 seats.”
PIA will have to make the rental payments on bi-weekly basis. It would also provide and pay for the services that include fuel; landing and parking; in-flight catering and crew meals; ground handling during PIA operation; interior cleaning, toilets servicing, external washing and cabin fumigation; notice to airmen (NOTAMS); weather briefing and assistance for filing of flight plan; navigation and noise charges excluding any penalty due to violation thereof.
PIA would also bear all other associated passengers costs and airport expenses, including but not limited to catering, passenger oxygen bottles, handling, parking, Airport tax, apron bus, check-in counter; cargo luggage; mail insurance for the lease term; flight clearance; traffic rights; flight approvals; TA/DA of CAA (Pak) personnel for aircraft and crew clearance; communications by local telephone, fax, and e-mail for business matters.
MMA would provide PIA with five sets of cockpit crew and cabin crew (each set consisting of Captain, First Officer and Cabin Crews) per aircraft together with sufficient Ground Engineers / personnel to cover requirement of operation smoothly and efficiently. The main base of both the aircraft would be Karachi.
Source: The News
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Boeing 747 cannot be used for Hajj flights from Peshawar and Quetta.Boeing 747, which carries maximum 500 passengers in one trip in an all economy configuration, whereas Boeing 767 will offer only close to 290 seats.
Most likely Hajj flights from Quetta and Peshawar will be operated with these wet leased Boeing 767s.
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Also we had two active 747s and around 6-7 active 310s last year so it wasn't really necessary to acquire wet leased aircraft. Btw can't they use 320s for hajj? i know seating is limited but if they have multiple daily flights from stations such ad quetta and peshawar, they could meet the demand.
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Sorry posted in wrong topic.CoyBoy wrote:There is also the A330-800/900neo to consider, a new contender replacing A332/333.
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Yess Karachi is the base And additonal both aircrafts will arrive before my school starts so will be able to catch them both InshaAllah The feeling of spotting new planes with different liveries is a delight.
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The wet leased Boeing 767s will be used for PIA Hajj and regional flights.
Source: brecorder.com
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Source: brecorder.com
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How can PIA acquire these 767s? Our new NAP 2015 allows induction of aircraft with a YoM of 2004 or after or 12 years of age at the time of induction.
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NAP 2015 have different condition for wet lease Aircraft and different for dry lease aircraft. These Aircraft are inducting for very short period of time probably for less than 60 days, that may be the reason.
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Maybe age relaxation for wet leased aircraft used for Hajj flights? Primary requirement seems Valid Foreign Operator Certificate (FOC) obtained from General Authority of Civil Aviation (GACA) of Saudi Arabia for the aircraft.
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Source: National Aviation Policy 20154.7 Policy Guidelines for Dry or Wet Lease of Aircraft
Dry lease shall be encouraged over wet lease arrangements. There shall be no permanent addition to capacity by inducting foreign registered aircraft on wet lease.
4.7.1 Wet Lease Special Condition
Temporary induction of foreign registered aircraft on wet lease may be permitted under following conditions:
a. Extra ordinary/special circumstances (such as aircraft accident or Hajj, Umra or ziarat operations, etc.)
b. Permissible up to maximum of 180 days, not extendable further.
c. Calendar age of all types of aircraft shall not be more than 12 years.
d. Wet leased capacity (Available Seat Kilometers) shall not exceed more than 50% of the total capacity at any point in time. Special consideration may be given by DG CAA for Hajj operations.
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Apparently the Pakistan International Airlines Pilots Association Is opposing the lease.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1191270/pilots ... -of-planes
http://www.dawn.com/news/1191270/pilots ... -of-planes