PIA Boeing 777 Cabin Upgrade Program

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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by GEnx » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:17 am

Still no progress. They had enough time to reconfigure at least one aircraft. Now, they are again going with the wet leased A330s. This is not going somewhere :very_mad:


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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by GEnx » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:19 am

Umar Farooq wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:11 pm
hamzaafzal wrote:How much time will it take?
From NOW, it will take more than 6 month; expected in March-2017.
Any development.?

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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by uzkt01 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:37 pm

GEnx wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:19 am
Umar Farooq wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:11 pm
hamzaafzal wrote:How much time will it take?
From NOW, it will take more than 6 month; expected in March-2017.
Any development.?
You shouldn't expect much. Looks like PIA will be spending bail out money to pay loans in order to get more loans in future. This is how state of Pakistan is being run and this is how state-owned companies will be run.

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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777-200LR

Post by Abbas Ali » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:42 am

According to a report in March 2 edition of English daily 'Business Recorder', the process to change seats of PIA Boeing 777 aircraft will start in November, five out of nine aircraft will be sent to Singapore for the change of seats that will cost US$ 42 million.

Installation of new seats probably to be performed by Singapore-based JAMCO Aero Design & Engineering (JADE) - jamco-jade.com.

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Abbas Ali wrote:Tender notice In today's (February 18) newspaper:

Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) is seeking Supplemental Type Certificate (STC)/Integrator/Maintenance, Repair and Overhaul (MRO) for retrofit and installation of seats/In-flight entertainment (IFE) on its Boeing 777 fleet as PIA is upgrading its Business Class with new messrs Stelia Solstys seats (proposed layout of passenger accommodation - LOPA for new Business Class will be provided with tender documents) vis-a-vis PIAC is also upgrading its existing Panasonic 3000/3000i IFE system with eXK to provide Business Class with eX3 experience and X-series type IFE system experience for S3Ki premium Economy Class and Economy Class (seats in Economy Class will remain same).

Retrofit proposal from Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)/European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) approved design organisations, having experience in similar type of projects on Boeing 777 aircraft, are required for performing Business Class upgradation and IFE upgrade (eXK) on nine PIA Boeing 777 aircraft (four Boeing 777-200ER, two Boeing 777-200LR and three Boeing 777-300ER).

* FAA STC offering will be preferred for mentioned upgrade.

* First prototype needed to be modified at integrator/design organisation's own facility.

* Estimated cost can be broken down into three headings:

a) Engineering and certification.
b) Modification kit.
c) Completion services at MRO facility.

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Singapore-based JAMCO Aero Design & Engineering (JADE) - jamco-jade.com - declared as successful bidder.

Info source: http://www.piac.com.pk/cms/BidReports/1 ... 160001.pdf

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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by Amaad Lone » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:52 pm

make pia into an all economy airline and improve your economy product, people who can afford club class tickets do not travel on pia.
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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by faisal-777 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:40 pm

Amaad Lone wrote:
Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:52 pm
make pia into an all economy airline and improve your economy product, people who can afford club class tickets do not travel on pia.
Exactly, all the business travelers, including expat living in Pakistan choose ME3 for their business flights abroad. I worked for a company where most of directors and MD were expats. After they were not satisfied with PIA's safety, it was decided that for coming from Karachi to Lahore, the MD would first travel via Emirates to Dubai and then catch Dubai to Lahore flight. Such is the trust. In my opinion, the airline needs to work on its perception than seats, cabins, food and IFE.
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Re: PIA to Buy New Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by Abbas Ali » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:31 pm

Maybe after the end of Hajj 2017 flights operation, PIA Boeing 777s will start getting equipped with new seats.

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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by Abbas Ali » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:55 pm

According to Dunya News channel:

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PIA Boeing 777 Business and Economy Class cabins will be upgraded with new seats and in-flight entertainment systems at a cost of five billion rupees.

Business Class cabins will be equipped with flat-bed seats.

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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by Ammar » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:57 pm

Abbas Ali wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:55 pm
According to Dunya News channel:

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PIA Boeing 777 Business and Economy Class cabins will be upgraded with new seats and in-flight entertainment systems at a cost of five billion rupees.

Business Class cabins will be equipped with flat-bed seats.

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Heard this will happen this November.
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Re: PIA to Buy New Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by Abbas Ali » Thu May 11, 2017 11:22 am

In May 11 newspaper:

Consultancy Required for Boeing 777 Up-gradation Project

Pakistan International Airlines Corporation Limited (PIACL) intends to acquire services of Project Coordinator for cabin up-gradation of Boeing 777 fleet.

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Re: PIA to Buy New Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by Adnan Anwar » Sat May 13, 2017 5:51 am

My Nephew was on PK 782 last night from YYZ to ISB and informed me that his LCD was cracked.

The aircraft still had the old Recaro seats (economy) in a bad shape.
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Re: PIA to Buy New Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by Abbas Ali » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:06 pm

PIA bids invitation in June 2 newspaper:

Invitation to Bid

Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) invites sealed bids on single stage two envelopes basis from international leading aircraft seats manufacturers or from their authorized distributors for the procurement of Boeing 777 EY (Economy Class seats for the five ship sets) for five aircraft.

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Re: PIA to Buy New Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by rayyanullah » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:32 pm

Best economy seats are in Qatari Dreamliner
Worst economy seats are in Qatri 777

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Re: PIA to Buy New Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by Abbas Ali » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:22 pm

From bidding document seems Economy Class seats are required for three Boeing 777-200ER (AP-BGJ, AP-BGK & AP-BGL) and two PIA Boeing 777-200LR (AP-BGY & AP-BGZ) aircraft.

Mandatory Requirements Include:

* Seats must be approved for installation on Boeing 777-200ER and Boeing 777-200LR.

* Seats must be compliant with the latest FAR25/CS-25 requirements (including 25,562) that include 16G certification and complies with RTCA/DO-160D for electrical items.

* Seat manufacturer must be TSO holder, must be compliant with C127a. The TSO must cover whole seat structure including fire, static and dynamic tests. If any seat feature is not covered in TSO or fire, static and dynamic tests then it must be approved through FAA process and is eligible to be installed on Boeing 777-200ER and Boeing 777-200LR.

* Seats must be compliant with Boeing comfort criteria

* 3-4-3 abreast configuration, front seat row will be 3-3-3 abreast in each zone.

* To be certified with Panasonic eXLite ECO 12 inches (V3) LCDs (preferred) or ECO 11 inches LCDs with PED Power Module™ one per passenger.

* Seat cushions must be less weight, better ventilation and high density, durable to ultraviolet rays and designed to provide lumbar support. Foam hardness should be well enough to avoid sinking of body.

* Provisioning installation for standard belts on all passengers (standard belts are SFE).

* All maintenance documents including manuals, SBs etc. must be provided by manufacturer throughout the life cycle of seats in both digital and hard copy format.

* Seat manufacturer will be required to provide product support in all necessary spare parts as long as at least one aircraft in service irrespective of any obsolescence.

* Transparent pouch for life vest (preferably Air Cruiser P/N 66601-101) stowage with tamper evident seals at the seat bottom.

* For ease of stretcher installation, the seat backrest must be provided with quick release break over device for seats specified for stretcher installation.

Source: PIA

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Re: PIA to Buy New Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by baberblues » Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:48 pm

IS PK moving to 3-4-3 seating ad mentioned in the tender document?