PIA Boeing 777 Cabin Upgrade Program

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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by Sherry3002 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:29 am

PIA's current Business class is an improved version of Premium economy on other airlines. It's fine for flights up to 7-8 hours, but anything more and the flight becomes a tad bit annoying. For my parents USA trip, they're choosing QR since the flight is almost 15 hrs. If these new seats are implemented, and like uzairali said, the other features are improved, then the Business sector of PIA could be revived. After all, the main purpose of flying Business class is to sleep easily, enjoy the lounge, have better food and be given priority at the airport and in the plane.
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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777-200LR

Post by Abbas Ali » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:02 pm

Abbas Ali wrote:Tender notice In today's (February 18) newspaper:

Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) is seeking Supplemental Type Certificate (STC)/Integrator/Maintenance, Repair and Overhaul (MRO) for retrofit and installation of seats/In-flight entertainment (IFE) on its Boeing 777 fleet as PIA is upgrading its Business Class with new messrs Stelia Solstys seats (proposed layout of passenger accommodation - LOPA for new Business Class will be provided with tender documents) vis-a-vis PIAC is also upgrading its existing Panasonic 3000/3000i IFE system with eXK to provide Business Class with eX3 experience and X-series type IFE system experience for S3Ki premium Economy Class and Economy Class (seats in Economy Class will remain same).

Retrofit proposal from Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)/European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) approved design organisations, having experience in similar type of projects on Boeing 777 aircraft, are required for performing Business Class upgradation and IFE upgrade (eXK) on nine PIA Boeing 777 aircraft (four Boeing 777-200ER, two Boeing 777-200LR and three Boeing 777-300ER).

* FAA STC offering will be preferred for mentioned upgrade.

* First prototype needed to be modified at integrator/design organisation's own facility.

* Estimated cost can be broken down into three headings:

a) Engineering and certification.
b) Modification kit.
c) Completion services at MRO facility.

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Singapore-based JAMCO Aero Design & Engineering (JADE) - jamco-jade.com - declared as successful bidder.

Info source: http://www.piac.com.pk/cms/BidReports/1 ... 160001.pdf

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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by uzairali » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:10 am

^

PIA should change their economy layout to 10 abreast instead of 9. Almost every airline has switched to this. This would rather be a good time where the whole planes get all seats replaced rather than just business and premium econ and continuing with 9 abreast for years to come.

Adding an extra seat a row can mean some 50 additional seats! Keep premium economy to 9 abreast.

Imagine a full aircraft on ISB-YYZ route and one way is say $700, that's $35,000 in extra profit a flight (ignoring fuel etc costs)

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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by CoyBoy » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:19 am

PIA do not have premoim economy, it was just economy plus and thats gone too, its now just sold as economy.
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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by Pakistan-1 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:27 pm

Surprised to see them reject cabin specialist like HAECO and Luthansa Technik and select some JAMCO
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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by Abbas Ali » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:37 pm

^ They were not rejected.

According to evaluation report, following bidders qualified:

JAMCO Aero Design & Engineering (JADE).
AAR Engineering Services.
Etihad Airways Engineering.
Lufthansa Technik AG.
KLM.
&
HAECO.

And, from these qualified bidders, JAMCO Aero Design & Engineering (JADE) got selected because apparently it offered to perform same task at lowest price and that's the purpose & objective of bidding process.

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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by Abbas Ali » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:33 am

Up to five Boeing 777s will be reconfigured with new business and economy class cabins, new in-flight entertainment systems and services. The first reconfigured aircraft should be available from February 2017, according to airline's acting CEO Bernd Hildenbrand.

http://atwonline.com/airlines/interview ... l-airlines

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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by hamzaafzal » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:54 pm

How much time will it take?Just can't wait to fly with PIA! PIA has improved alot of things in past couple of months that it is now making me curious though! The same layout is with the british airways I guess. :roll:

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Re: PIA to Buy New Business Class Seats for Boeing 777 Fleet

Post by PK-Geek » Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:11 pm

hamzaafzal wrote:How much time will it take?
From NOW, it will take more than 6 month; expected in March-2017.
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PIA Invites Bids to Buy Seats for Boeing 777-200LR and Boeing 777-300ER Aircraft

Post by Abbas Ali » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:57 am

Tender notice in today's (September 28) newspaper:

Pakistan International Airlines intends to procure aircraft seats for installation on Boeing 777-200LR and Boeing 777-300ER fleet.

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Re: PIA Invites Bids to Buy Seats for Boeing 777-200LR and Boeing 777-300ER Aircraft

Post by dreamliner99 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:22 pm

Hasn't PIA already purchased business class seats for its fleet of 777's. Would this be for economy class seats?

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Re: PIA Invites Bids to Buy Seats for Boeing 777-200LR and Boeing 777-300ER Aircraft

Post by Abbas Ali » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:25 pm

^ Yes, these could be for economy class.

Bidding document on PIA website may reveal details.

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Re: PIA Invites Bids to Buy Seats for Boeing 777-200LR and Boeing 777-300ER Aircraft

Post by Abbas Ali » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:28 pm

Seats required for Economy Class and must be certified for Panasonic eXLite IFE system, according to bidding document on official PIA website.

eXLite is Panasonic's lightest weight and lowest power IFE system.

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Re: PIA Invites Bids to Buy Seats for Boeing 777-200LR and Boeing 777-300ER Aircraft

Post by Pakistan-1 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:04 pm

Abbas Ali wrote:Seats required for Economy Class and must be certified for Panasonic eXLite IFE system, according to bidding document on official PIA website.

eXLite is Panasonic's lightest weight and lowest power IFE system.

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Pretty sure that it's the same one used by CX in their A350s
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Re: PIA Invites Bids to Buy Seats for Boeing 777-200LR and Boeing 777-300ER Aircraft

Post by Hamad » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:00 pm

Pakistan-1 wrote:
Abbas Ali wrote:Seats required for Economy Class and must be certified for Panasonic eXLite IFE system, according to bidding document on official PIA website.

eXLite is Panasonic's lightest weight and lowest power IFE system.

Source: panasonic.aero

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Pretty sure that it's the same one used by CX in their A350s
Yes its beeing used nowadays in many Economy Classes - Last Flight I have seeing this Seat/Screen was in Kuwait Airways A320
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