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Pakistan Navy to Replace Fokker F27 with ATR 72 Aircraft

Postby Zulfiqar » Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:26 pm

http://dawn.com/2013/01/04/aslat-dehsha ... this-year/
Aslat, Dehshat to be inducted into PN fleet this year

KARACHI, Jan 3: While the last year induction of modified P3C aircraft and PNS Azmat into the naval fleet was a significant landmark, PNS Aslat and PNS Dehshat being built at the Karachi Shipyard will be formally inducted into the fleet this year to further augment the defence capability of Pakistan Navy.

These views were expressed by Chief of the Naval Staff Admiral Mohammad Asif Sandila while speaking as the chief guest at the annual efficiency competition parade and awards ceremony of Pakistan Navy for the year 2012 held at the PN Dockyard on Thursday.

Besides, the ageing Fokkers would be replaced with ATR-72 aircraft, he added.

“I would like to stress that the Government of Pakistan is fully cognisant of the force goals of Pakistan Navy, thus despite an economic crunch, our requirements are being addressed to the best of our needs,” he said.

The rapid changes in the technologies for defence equipment, especially maritime warfare and latest developments in naval strategies, demanded optimum professional capabilities and the highest level of proficiency, he said.

However, he said, the acquisition of modern defence equipment alone was not the path to success but equally important were professional capability and teamwork for success.

“Taking cognisance of this need, in order to enhance the training standard and make it more effective, we have declared 2013 to be the ‘Year for Training’. I am confident that if all of us devote maximum attention to training, there will be overall progress in Pakistan Navy,” the naval chief observed.

Apart from PN fleet’s various successful operations, the effective execution of exercises RIBAT and SEASPARK were prominent achievements, he said, adding that missile and torpedo firings also played an effective role in enhancing PN’s war preparedness, confidence and training.

According to a PN statement issued on Thursday, the efficiency parade, held every year, signifies professional achievements of naval fleet units over past 12 months.

In his welcome address, Pakistan Fleet Commander Vice Admiral Zakaullah earlier recounted the operational achievements of PN fleet during the year 2012.

In the end, Admiral Sandila gave away shields and congratulated the winners.—APP
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Re: ATR-72 likely to be inducted by Pakistan Navy

Postby Abbas Ali » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:11 pm

According to news report on following link, ATR 72 will join Pakistan Navy this year to replace Fokker F27.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013/01 ... s-sandila/

Following is information given on Pakistan Navy website about its Number 27 multi-role squadron equipped with Fokker F27. Probably ATR 72 will join this squadron.

27 ASW SQUADRON

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F-27 Fokker Aircraft were acquired in 1982 and 27 Maritime Squadron was established. Squadron is the nursery for Fixed wing pilots, Navigators of Pakistan, and Foreign Navies. Fokker Aircraft are fitted with State of the Art Radar, ESM and FLIR. 27 Squadron is a multirole squadron performing variety of tasks like Surveillance, OTHT/VECTAC, ASW, Para drop, Logistic Support as primary roles and infinite secondary roles such as SAR, VVIP/VIP Ferry, Command and Liaison etc. 27 squadron proved as vanguard in earthquake of 2005, Flood Relief Operations in Punjab and Sindh in 2010 and Flood Relief Operations in Sindh in 2011. The squadron also actively participated in multi national exercises of AMAN and Naseem Ul Bahr.

Source: paknavy.gov.pk


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Re: ATR-72 likely to be inducted by Pakistan Navy

Postby Abbas Ali » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:38 pm

Pakistan Navy is acquiring two slightly used ATR 72-500 aircraft as initial replacement of F27, according to information on following link:

http://pakmr.blogspot.com/2012/10/pakis ... naval.html

I think it means some more ATR aircraft will be added later for complete replacement of F27.

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Re: Pakistan Navy to Replace Fokker F27 with ATR 72 Aircraft

Postby Amaad Lone » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:59 pm

Tragedy of Pakistan.

Butter or Guns.

While the airline suffers due ot lack of planes, the government is willing to spend atleast $25 million for ATR72s that will sit quitely in airforce colors at some airbase doing nothing.

Does the airforce really need these ATR72s.

Doesnt the government need to acquire revenue earning assets.

The armed forces along with the politicans and the beauracracy has raped our country.
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Re: Pakistan Navy to Replace Fokker F27 with ATR 72 Aircraft

Postby riz » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:25 pm

Amaad Lone wrote:Tragedy of Pakistan.

Does the airforce really need these ATR72s.



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Re: Pakistan Navy to Replace Fokker F27 with ATR 72 Aircraft

Postby mac777 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:45 am

not even atr42

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Re: Pakistan Navy to Replace Fokker F27 with ATR 72 Aircraft

Postby Adnan Anwar » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:44 am

They should be replacing the SeaKings in the Navy Fleet which are at the end of their life span.
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Re: Pakistan Navy to Replace Fokker F27 with ATR 72 Aircraft

Postby Abbas Ali » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:27 pm

I think the main reason for presence of Fokker F27 and now planned ATR 72 in Pakistan Navy inventory is that they are suitable for simpler maritime patrol/reconnaissance missions and economical to operate when compared with P-3C Orion which is used for advanced missions.

The other use of ATR 72 most likely will be transportation of Navy personnel and equipment between different cities of Pakistan.

In recent times, I saw Pakistan Navy F27 flying over Lahore. Probaby Navy F27 made visits between Karachi and Lahore for transportation of naval personnel/equipment. Would like to add that Pakistan Navy War College is in Lahore.

Obviously, F27s were getting aged and Navy at some stage had to find suitable replacement for these aircraft.

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Re: Pakistan Navy to Replace Fokker F27 with ATR 72 Aircraft

Postby hasan saleem » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:51 pm

How many F-27 does Navy have.

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Re: Pakistan Navy to Replace Fokker F27 with ATR 72 Aircraft

Postby Abbas Ali » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:11 pm

^ At least three Pakistan Navy Fokker F27 aircraft can be seen parked at PNS Mehran Naval Air Station in Karachi in a recent satellite image on following link:

http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=24.870898 ... 9&l=44&m=b

According to aerotransport.org, currently Pakistan Navy has six active F27 aircraft.

Anyway, it's difficult to get accurate and up-to-date information about Pakistani military and civilian aircraft fleets.

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Re: Pakistan Navy to Replace Fokker F27 with ATR 72 Aircraft

Postby viasa » Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:45 am

The first aircraft will be a nearly 9 year old ATR72-500 of Naysa Aerotaxis (Binter): http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/aircraft/15929

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Re: Pakistan Navy to Replace Fokker F27 with ATR 72 Aircraft

Postby Abbas Ali » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:54 am

^ Thank you VIASA for the info.

The ATR 72-212A (ex-EC-JAH) is currently at Gran Canaria Airport (Las Palmas Airport) and there it is getting painted in Pakistan Navy grey colour scheme.

The ATR 72-212A (ex-EC-JAH) is construction number 712 and it was built in 2004.

Photo of the same aircraft (EC-JAH) when it was in service with Navegacion y Servicios Aéreos Canarios (NAYSA) and operated under a franchise agreement as Binter Canarias.

It was configured to carry 68 passengers in single class layout during service with NAYSA/Binter.

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EC-JAH by IanG-SWAG, on Flickr

Aircraft Type: ATR 72-212A
Construction Number: 712
Year Built: 2004
Last Known Registration: EC-JAH
Last Known Operator: Binter Canarias
Brief History: Registered in France as F-WWEL for pre-delivery test flights. Registered in Spain as EC-JAH and delivered to Binter Canarias on July 30, 2004.

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Re: Pakistan Navy to Replace Fokker F27 with ATR 72 Aircraft

Postby Abbas Ali » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:21 pm

ATR 72-212A (former EC-JAH) getting painted in Pakistan Navy markings at Gran Canaria Airport (Las Palmas Airport) photographed on February 22, 2013.

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Click here to see large photo. (Photo by Patricio)

To represent aircraft's movement/flight in forward direction, start & crescent on starboard side of vertical stabilizer should have been painted in other direction like seen on this Pakistan Navy Fokker F27.

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Re: Pakistan Navy to Replace Fokker F27 with ATR 72 Aircraft

Postby Amaad Lone » Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:01 pm

The selfishness of the armed forces.

If there is any spare money, they want it.

Even a couple of used ATR72-500s would have helped PIA overcome capacity shortage on some routes.

But in the name of defence they want the money.
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Re: Pakistan Navy to Replace Fokker F27 with ATR 72 Aircraft

Postby Abbas Ali » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:36 am

The first ATR 72 of Pakistan Navy departed from Gran Canaria Airport on March 2 probably on its delivery flight to Pakistan Naval Station (PNS) Mehran in Karachi.

Delivery/ferry flight includes technical/refueling stops at Palma de Mallorca Airport and Antalya Airport.

Hope to see delivery photos in Pakistani news media in coming days. The photos may reveal military serial number allocated to this ATR.

Or maybe the ATR will stay in Turkey for sometime to undergo modifications necessary for Pakistan Navy missions.

Turkish Navy operates ATR 72-500 aircraft as Maritime Patrol Aircraft (MPA) with Anti Submarine Warfare (ASW) and Maritime Surveillance/Reconnaissance capabilities.

Turkish ATR 72 aircraft underwent modifications (Meltem III program) at Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI), according to information on following link:

https://www.tai.com.tr/en/project/meltem-iii-atr-72

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