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PIA Flight PK-787 Returns to Karachi Due to Engine Problem

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November 18 - According to Geo News, an engine of a PIA aircraft operating flight PK-787 from Karachi to London during climb out stage was seen spitting out flames.

The aircraft took off from Karachi around 11:48AM. It's carrying 167 passengers and 16 crew members.

A ground witness told news channel that he heard explosions and flames coming out from right-side engine of the aircraft - probably engine number 2 of a twin engine Boeing 777 or Airbus A310-300.

The aircraft is expected to return to Karachi for normal landing. Emergency and rescue vehicles/personnel have been alerted at Karachi Airport.

According to Geo News, it was an Airbus A310-300 and problematic left side engine (engine number 1 ?) of the aircraft has been shut down.

Engine number 1 of the A310 is working normally and the aircraft will land with the help of that engine, according to Express News channel.

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The Airbus A310-300 has landed safely at Karachi Airport, according to news reports.

Engine number 2 of the A310 had caught fire some three minutes after takeoff, according to Express News channel.

PIA is making arrangements for an alternate aircraft to transport PK-787 passengers to London.

According to statement of a Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) official quoted by Geo News, engine number 2 of the A310 experienced some technical problem and it was shut down by cockpit crew. The engine had not caught fire, according to that official.

The aircraft took off from Karachi at 11:40AM and experienced problem with engine number 2 some three minutes after takeoff. That engine was shut down by cockpit crew and they informed air traffic controller about the situation. The aircraft made safe landing at Karachi Airport at 12:08PM.

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Such incidents are becoming more and more common with PIA now. I wonder if there is a lag over at the engineering department or is it that the A310s have just run the course of their natural lives.
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Btw, sounds of explosions and flames coming out of engine as reported by a ground witness could also be due to bird ingested by that engine.

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Just for the information bcz the media didnt report it on 15th Air Arabia did an emergency landing in khi and by an emergency landing i mean an emergency landing bcz of cargo compartment smoke.Passengers were evacuated on the taxi way
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Another PIA aircraft is expected to depart as flight PK-787 around 1:30PM, according to latest news reports.

Steps taken to handle situation by flight PK-787 commander Capt. Ahmed Saeed have been commended by PIA Managing Director Capt. Junaid Yunus who said that a medal will be given to Capt. Ahmed Saeed, according to latest reports. I think it means cockpit crew faced some serious/difficult situation.

It remains unclear whether engine actually caught fire or was shut down for some other technical reason. A PIA spokesman also has denied reports of engine fire and has said that engine was shut down for technical reasons.

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According to initial reports, cockpit crew shut down engine number 2 after it ingested a bird.

Geo News channel showed a Pakistan CAA fire tender positioned close to a PIA Airbus A310-300 at Karachi Airport. Probably another fire tender positioned on starboard side of the aircraft. It's one of six Airbus A310-308 aircraft in PIA fleet that are powered with General Electric engines.

Don't know whether it's the same A310 that faced engine problem or not.

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Flight PK-787 departed from Karachi at 3:25PM - probably an alternate aircraft.

From information on flightradar24.com, it seems PIA Airbus A310-308 registration AP-BEB or AP-BEU suffered engine ingestion/problem as flight PK-787 today.

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The incident occurred with AP-BEU and probably the same aircraft is now operating Pk787.
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I heard it. I had just woken up about 15 mins before and sitting having my morning coffee when I heard 2-3 thunder like explosions (I live 10-15 mins way from JIAP) and my aunt thought a bomb exploded. It was a very scary sound and a few minutes later I found out it was this incident.

Sadly due to the lack of spare parts for these planes, these incidents will become more and more common. There is only so much one can do to keep these planes in the air and without new spare parts, vital components could give way at any time with the only option left being to cannibalize other planes to keep the remaining few airworthy. They're playing a very dangerous game.

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PIA press release does not mention bird strike so I think it means engine experienced some technical problem.

After the incident, another aircraft was arranged to operate flight PK-787.

Here's PIA press release.
Karachi, Nov 18, 2012: PIA flight PK–787 Karachi–London took off normally from Jinnah International Airport at 11:25 am and safely landed back at 12:20 pm. PIA spokesman said here on Sunday.

He said that the aeroplane Airbus A310 was airborne for about 55 minutes. Capt. Ahmed Saeed noticed that one of the two engines malfunctioned and the safety procedure demanded that the aircraft had to be landed back. The pilot skillfully made safe landing at Karachi. The Airbus is designed to safely take off and land back on one engine. PIA management announced a medal for the operating pilot for his professionalism and for observing the safety procedures.

The PIA Engineering took control of the aircraft and started checking the engine, which would take time. An aircraft was available, so the passengers were boarded on another plane. Some of the TV channels wrongly reported about fire on the aircraft, which is not true, PIA spokesman added.

Later, PK-787 with 147 passengers and crew on board took off for London at 03:15 pm and will reach Heathrow Airport at 07:15 pm local time Sunday.

Source: PIA Press Release (November 18, 2012)
According to latest reports, the A310 was carrying a total of 167 people including crew members at the time of incident and after landing at Karachi around 10 passengers opted to discontinue their journey.

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Re: PIA Flight PK-787 Returns to Karachi Due to Engine Probl

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It was AP-BEB, replacement aircraft is AP-BEU.
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Thank you A310 for the info.

Alhamdulillah the flight landed back safely.

Btw, I have traveled on Bravo Echo Bravo as well in 2011 from Kuwait to Lahore (via Karachi due to diversion) and at that time it also faced some problem with its engines which were not getting started after push back to continue journey towards Lahore so the PIA engineering did fixed the issue after towing it back to the parking position and we departed with priority taxi out and take-off.

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The replacement aircraft i.e. PIA Airbus A310-308 (AP-BEU) observed operating Karachi to London flight PK-787 on November 18 on following link:

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/ap-beu

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Information on following link confirms AP-BEB as the PIA Airbus A310-308 that experienced engine problem.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4593865f&opt=0

According to details on that link, left hand engine (engine number 1 ?) suffered technical problem.

So, it still remains unclear whether A310's engine number 1 (port side engine) or engine number 2 (starboard side engine) experienced problem.

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