Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by PK-Geek » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:23 pm

Pakistan-1 wrote:Is this the that crashed in Lahore a few years ago ?
No. That was AP-BHJ. It's another one.
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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by Abdulrafeysiddiqui » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:40 pm

I remember AP-BHJ was written off, can't remember what happened to AP-BHN?

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by Abbas Ali » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:22 pm

In November 2015, DAWN News channel reported that AP-BHN is grounded for more than eighteen months due to lack of spares.

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Maybe AP-BHN ended up as spares source and cannibalised?

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by SMS » Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:18 am

AP-BGR is not in active service since 13 November after flying PK897, when it first landed back at KUL within minutes after takeoff. And PK897 was delayed more than 8 hours. Any updates about what exactly was the problem?

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Post by Abbas Ali » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:37 am

AP-BGR performing Karachi to Lahore flight PK-316 at the moment.

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by Abbas Ali » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:26 am

According to a report in today's DAWN newspaper, PIA management has rejected suggestion to keep ageing A310s operational for some more time. The airline is going to retire its remaining three A310s by December 31 and is hoping to get their replacement in the form of dry or wet leased aircraft in coming weeks.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1303356/atrs- ... may-worsen

Currently following three PIA Airbus A310-300s are operational:

Airbus A310-324ET registration AP-BGO.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bgo

Airbus A310-324ET registration AP-BGP.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bgp

Airbus A310-325ET registration AP-BGR.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bgr

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Post by Ammar » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:59 pm

As per some Instagram pages related to aviation, AP - BGR has retired.
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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by Pakistan-1 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:07 pm

That's a dumb move
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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by aviator773 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:27 pm

No More 310's in 2017. PK 852 Lhe-Isb is due to be optd with 320 and then 777 onwards.

Farewell A-310's you have served PIA to the best of your ability.

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Post by Abbas Ali » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:39 pm

So, A310 retired without ceremony? Anyway, PIA has this bad habit of phasing out long serving aircraft without ceremony.

A simple ceremony including water cannon salute for the last A310 flight with some speeches by airline's management, former & current A310 crew members sharing their memories of the aircraft type would have been nice.

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by faisal-777 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:44 pm

Pakistan-1 wrote:That's a dumb move
Absolutely no. What benefit does it serve to keep an old aircraft, which is hard to maintain, and notable for even passengers that it's getting old. 73H would be fuel efficient and present a better image, being newer and with less maintenance issues.

IMO these should have been retired a year earlier. These birds offered all they could.
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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by Pakistan-1 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:26 pm

faisal-777 wrote:
Pakistan-1 wrote:That's a dumb move
Absolutely no. What benefit does it serve to keep an old aircraft, which is hard to maintain, and notable for even passengers that it's getting old. 73H would be fuel efficient and present a better image, being newer and with less maintenance issues.

IMO these should have been retired a year earlier. These birds offered all they could.
They should have kept them until the replacement fleet had arrived and now they are 3 planes less in the fleet plus the whole ATR fiasco
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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by faisal-777 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:34 pm

Pakistan-1 wrote:
faisal-777 wrote:
Pakistan-1 wrote:That's a dumb move
Absolutely no. What benefit does it serve to keep an old aircraft, which is hard to maintain, and notable for even passengers that it's getting old. 73H would be fuel efficient and present a better image, being newer and with less maintenance issues.

IMO these should have been retired a year earlier. These birds offered all they could.
They should have kept them until the replacement fleet had arrived and now they are 3 planes less in the fleet plus the whole ATR fiasco
ATR issue is irrelevant as A310s cannot substitute for ATR operations. And I think the wet lease 73H might be coming sooner than expected since it's a wet lease. Should not take too much processing. At the moment potential lessor (Pegasus) might be much more desperate to give them away, then us who want to take it.
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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by yyzflyer » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:00 pm

A310s are no longer worthy to fly, should be retired.
PIA should get alternate aircrafts for replacement and do that quickly. Otherwise people will fly with others.
Perhaps airblue can get increase in load factors as they have newer airbus fleet.

Too many serious problems arising with A310s, its a risk