Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by Abbas Ali » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:12 pm

Amaad Lone wrote:Any idea how many hours were on AP-BEQ and BEU when they retired?
Information about AP-BEQ from July 31, 2016, sale notice document of the aircraft.

Aircraft Type: Airbus A310-308
Registration: AP-BEQ
Manufacture Date: August 1992
Manufacture Serial Number: 656
Passenger Seating: 12 Business Class + 195 Economy Class
Time Since New: 76009 hours
Cycles Since New: 24570 cycles

Next C Check Due: 77422 hours / October 26, 2016

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by ammad » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:29 pm

Abbas Ali wrote:AP-BEQ has not performed any flight today, so far. The A310 had arrived in Karachi at 3:29 AM on October 18 as flight PK-732 from Jeddah.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-beq

Her three sisterships are busy performing PIA flights:

AP-BGO

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bgo

AP-BGP

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bgp

AP-BGR

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bgr

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AP-BGP is not active in November roster. Is it going under routine maintenance or also set to retire?
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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by hasan saleem » Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:07 am

seems it also all set to retire, leaving 2 active 310's

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by uzkt01 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:43 pm

If they are retiring 2 A310s right now without any replacement at the moment, whilst also adding new routes. I wonder how are they going to fly those routes.

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by Abbas Ali » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:21 pm

On October 28, PIA Lahore to Kuala Lumpur flight PK-898 suffered delay of more than nine hours because A310 registration AP-BGO scheduled to perform that flight arrived in Lahore hours late as flight PK-206 from Kuwait. AP-BGO had got stuck in Kuwait due to poor weather/visibility and apparently after departing from Kuwait landed in Karachi for some reason before resuming flight to Lahore.
Karachi; October 28, 2016

Due to fog and very low visibility in Kuwait this morning a PIA aircraft remained stuck there for several hours. As a repercussion PK-898 (Lahore to Kuala Lumpur) has been delayed by nine hours and would take off at 6pm. PIA call center is informing the passengers through phone calls and SMS on the numbers provided at the time of reservation. Any inconvenience in this regard is regretted.
Source: http://www.piac.com.pk/PIA_About/pr_28Oct16-3.asp

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by uzairali » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:48 pm

uzkt01 wrote:If they are retiring 2 A310s right now without any replacement at the moment, whilst also adding new routes. I wonder how are they going to fly those routes.

They did add a333. Also 2 more a333 are coming hopefully.

They also floated tender for wet lease of aircraft

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by uzkt01 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:27 pm

I know they added a 333 in August but 333s are not meant to replace 310s, rather than they are used to complement 777s. 310s need to be replaced with 321s,788 or 332s.

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by Abbas Ali » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:01 pm

AP-BGP returned to duty today.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ap-bgp

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by uzairali » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:34 am

uzkt01 wrote:I know they added a 333 in August but 333s are not meant to replace 310s, rather than they are used to complement 777s. 310s need to be replaced with 321s,788 or 332s.
Why complement b777? We have enough b777 and that's why order switched from b777 to b787.

It's true that 300 seater doesn't replace 330 seater (Technically it is 400 seater, but PIA uses 70 less seats), it is still keeping fleet number steady.

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by CoyBoy » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:26 am

Lufthansa replaced their A300/310 fleet with A333.
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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by uzkt01 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:02 am

uzairali wrote:
uzkt01 wrote:I know they added a 333 in August but 333s are not meant to replace 310s, rather than they are used to complement 777s. 310s need to be replaced with 321s,788 or 332s.
Why complement b777? We have enough b777 and that's why order switched from b777 to b787.

It's true that 300 seater doesn't replace 330 seater (Technically it is 400 seater, but PIA uses 70 less seats), it is still keeping fleet number steady.
That is a different discussion about what has been done and what needs to be done.
I also believe 333 shouldnt have permanent place in PIA fleet. 787 is better for the job.

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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by Amaad Lone » Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:23 pm

What about the two Aero Mexico 777s that would have helped with the A310s going out of commission??

Maybe PIA can wet lease the Windrose A321s that Air Blue returned.

It might be a good idea to paint them all white so the general public does not figure it out.
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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by Sherry3002 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:21 pm

Why all white? Is it not allowed to paint wet-leased aircraft?
They did it with PIA Premier.
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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by PK-Geek » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:53 pm

As per latest information, AP-BEQ (A310) withdrawn from service and de-registered.

AP-BHN (ATR42) also permanently grounded.

PIA markings will be removed soon.
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Re: Airbus A310s to be Phased Out from PIA Fleet After Hajj

Post by Pakistan-1 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:33 pm

Umar Farooq wrote: AP-BHN (ATR42) also pernamently grounded
Is this the that crashed in Lahore a few years ago ?
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